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Calzehbhoy

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Re: Millichamp and hall custom
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2016, 09:09:52 PM »

Genuine question - Why does the bat get a lot larger again at the edge? What does this bring/help if and when bats are largely conclaves? Why don't they just go to a smaller edge?
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Re: Millichamp and hall custom
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2016, 09:14:06 PM »

Placebo effect of bigger being more powerful, also scientific as Chris king has talked about previously of creating an arc in the back of the bat for strength and reducing twist of the willow allowjng you to get more power transmitted through the shot as less is lost to vibration and twist
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Re: Millichamp and hall custom
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2016, 09:43:18 PM »

Placebo effect of bigger being more powerful, also scientific as Chris king has talked about previously of creating an arc in the back of the bat for strength and reducing twist of the willow allowjng you to get more power transmitted through the shot as less is lost to vibration and twist

I still think that video about arches was nothing more than a marketing ploy to sell more concaved bats, but that's probably just me being cynical...
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Re: Millichamp and hall custom
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2016, 09:50:17 PM »

It's got scientific validity to it, I mean I'd still take a full shape given the option personally, and agree that it probably has helped shift some concaved bats, but equally Im not sure it makes all that much difference if im honest though, I've seen concaved bats tap up well all over and full bats tap up well all over
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Re: Millichamp and hall custom
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2016, 10:42:49 PM »

I still think that video about arches was nothing more than a marketing ploy to sell more concaved bats, but that's probably just me being cynical...
You're not wrong, haven't seen a video but the stuff in the cricinfo interview was a load of nonsense - not how arches work at all.

M&H do it because they can then market a '50mm edge' which your average punter likes the sound of.
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Re: Millichamp and hall custom
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2016, 11:04:39 PM »

Years ago on of my team mates bought a bat with a very similar shape from Pakistan along to practice, think it belonged to a friend of his. It was concaved to the max. Not sure if it was the shape or the density of the wood but it was one of the lightest bats I have seen. Not sure if it was English willow as I never saw it being used. It felt it might have shattered.
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Re: Millichamp and hall custom
« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2016, 01:53:22 AM »

Years ago on of my team mates bought a bat with a very similar shape from Pakistan along to practice, think it belonged to a friend of his. It was concaved to the max. Not sure if it was the shape or the density of the wood but it was one of the lightest bats I have seen. Not sure if it was English willow as I never saw it being used. It felt it might have shattered.


I think you are referring to this bat from CA;

http://cawears.com/detail.php?mainid=36&subid=176&catid=35

One of my teammate has it, this bat is massive and picks up really light. From look of the wood, it seems if its a tape ball bat.
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Re: Millichamp and hall custom
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2016, 09:50:11 AM »

Having a full profile bat is going to be the more favoured option, as the more wood you have in a bat the better it should be. Concaving is however necessary to keep bat weight down, and also helps with pick up and balance.

I think a little concaving doesn't matter too much, especially when you take the opinion of Chris King into account.

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Re: Millichamp and hall custom
« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2016, 04:18:11 PM »

It certainly wasn't a CA. It was some small brand in fact I don't even think it had stickers.
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Re: Millichamp and hall custom
« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2017, 06:42:33 PM »

https://mobile.twitter.com/mandhcricket?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

I've just spent the last 15 mins looking through millichamps twitter page and their website to see what they were offering up this year and they are concaving the nuts out of all their bats. The bat used by nick Compton on their recent open day which they've given away in a competition...well if they'd shaved any further into the bat they'd have come out of the face pretty soon! just look at the spine and the edges from this view, why?! Am I missing something here??

https://mobile.twitter.com/mandhcricket/status/833708630570565633/photo/1

Why are they making these bizarre profiles?? I just can't imagine they feel great to use at all. I'm not trying to bash them deliberately I'm just sad and puzzled that looking through their stuff where ten years ago I'd have been drooling and pining for their kit now I wouldn't even consider it at all, in fact I'd actively avoid it. I remember the first bat I had from them everything about it was special. The look, the smell, the feel. It had this incredible imperfectly perfect feel about it that comes from something being totally handmade. I nearly cried tears of joy when I received it! Could barely stand to use it it was such a thing of beauty. What happened m & h!
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Re: Millichamp and hall custom
« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2017, 07:47:27 PM »

When you look through the photos and see how tidy the workshop is you can tell that there isn't much done. Either that or they tidy it before every photo! Then you look of the workshop shots of Pete's Custom and you can tell that it's a busy place, sawdust and shavings everywhere!!
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Re: Millichamp and hall custom
« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2017, 07:52:05 PM »

I'm trying to comment on goldens post without looking back thru rose coloured spectacles, similar to the Newbery thread, some of us on here remember when you got one of these bats, you were buying the absolute best in the business.

They are successfull now....what they do sells

I think I'll pretend it's 1980 and if you bought a bat it was a bat not a ski slope  :)

Duran Duran anyone?
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Re: Millichamp and hall custom
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2017, 08:01:55 PM »

I adored the m&h master, the shape and stickers. Mate of mine bought one and it goes miles. Although it could be him, at the time they only did the master in 3lb. They did eventually bring out a few as light as 2lb10oz. Still regret not buying the one i picked up, it was beautifully balanced (it was £400! Back then). It is sad they are so much less desirable now.
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Re: Millichamp and hall custom
« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2017, 10:58:57 PM »

Spotted one of those at club nets at the weekend, with a big chunk split out of the edge at the back!
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Re: Millichamp and hall custom
« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2017, 11:20:48 PM »

I try not be cynical about M&H as I've had some fantastic bats in the past, but that's got to be the cleanest workshop I've ever seen, especially for a company that must product 1000's a year.
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