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springbok45

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Re: If cook stands down after India who should replace him?
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2016, 12:52:27 PM »

Woakes, like YJB he has been away and improved his game and has come on massively also seems to be quite level headed (no histrionics when bowling) and seems to be able to adapt himself to the game situation well.
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Re: If cook stands down after India who should replace him?
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2016, 01:25:39 PM »

Only one choice and that's Joe Root. He's the only batsman with an average of 50+, he's easily the best player in the team and most importantly he's the one player who consistently can do world class things.
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Re: If cook stands down after India who should replace him?
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2016, 01:45:08 PM »

Only one choice and that's Joe Root. He's the only batsman with an average of 50+, he's easily the best player in the team and most importantly he's the one player who consistently can do world class things.

Exactly why he shouldn't be burdened with the captaincy. Just let the lad bat and bat and bat!!
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Re: If cook stands down after India who should replace him?
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2016, 02:23:48 PM »

Exactly why he shouldn't be burdened with the captaincy. Just let the lad bat and bat and bat!!
The likes of Kohli, Williamson and smith average more as captain. Who's to say Root wouldn't be the same?
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Re: If cook stands down after India who should replace him?
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2016, 02:25:31 PM »

Stokes as Captian!

A) Way too early in the piece, will ruin him a la Botham 1981

B) He has true 'ginger' temperament and may not make it through his first press conference.

Very, very bad idea.
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Re: If cook stands down after India who should replace him?
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2016, 02:39:08 PM »

it really depends on when Cook stands down - series to come are -

South Africa - Home Summer 2017
West Indies - Home Summer 2017
Australia - Away Winter 2017/2018

Who knows what the team looks like then but i reckon it will be Root although it is a gamble as Captaincy will make his batting go one way or the other - as an alternative i would definitely offer up Mo - i think he is a very intelligent, well spoken cricketer, who could definitely do a job, if things with Root go pear shaped.
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Re: If cook stands down after India who should replace him?
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2016, 02:41:50 PM »

No way in the world Moeen Ali should ever be considered as captain. He's a bits and pieces player and only ever a poor series away from the axe
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Re: If cook stands down after India who should replace him?
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2016, 02:44:42 PM »

Only one choice and that's Joe Root. He's the only batsman with an average of 50+, he's easily the best player in the team and most importantly he's the one player who consistently can do world class things.

I don't understand why that makes anyone a good candidate for captaincy. Thats an old trap to fall into making your best player the captain and its nearly always ended badly for England. Yes you have to lead from the front and be a v. good player but if you're not a man manager with genuine insight into the people you play with or don't have a particularly incisive cricket brain how is hitting hundreds with a high average going to help you organise your team on and off the field? Root needs to be left alone to just keep doing those things on his own terms without shouldering a responsibility he's not really cut out for.
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Re: If cook stands down after India who should replace him?
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2016, 02:45:19 PM »

Only one choice and that's Joe Root. He's the only batsman with an average of 50+, he's easily the best player in the team and most importantly he's the one player who consistently can do world class things.

That Stokes lad ain't half bad ether, mind you...
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Re: If cook stands down after India who should replace him?
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2016, 02:48:17 PM »

I don't understand why that makes anyone a good candidate for captaincy. Thats an old trap to fall into making your best player the captain and its nearly always ended badly for England. Yes you have to lead from the front and be a v. good player but if you're not a man manager with genuine insight into the people you play with or don't have a particularly incisive cricket brain how is hitting hundreds with a high average going to help you organise your team on and off the field? Root needs to be left alone to just keep doing those things on his own terms without shouldering a responsibility he's not really cut out for.

Be it junior cricket or a Test Match, I don't like this idea.
The "best player" is more often than not an average (at best) captain.

On the flip side of that, I'm sh*t but people seem to enjoy playing under me as captain for some strange reason. Captaincy is down to communication skills and man management, rather than cricketing ability, I feel.
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Re: If cook stands down after India who should replace him?
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2016, 02:50:11 PM »

Stokes as Captian!

A) Way too early in the piece, will ruin him a la Botham 1981

B) He has true 'ginger' temperament and may not make it through his first press conference.

Very, very bad idea.

oh stop being a spoilsport, don tell me after a hot day bowling flat out on a dead track in Colombo when the oppo are 500-2 you would not like to hear the following post day interview:

knighty:  ''So Ben, England have had a bad day bowlers not looking very threatening today, what's it like bowling in 45 degree heat?''

Stokes: '' i'm going to re-arrange your face'
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Re: If cook stands down after India who should replace him?
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2016, 02:54:00 PM »

oh stop being a spoilsport, don tell me after a hot day bowling flat out on a dead track in Colombo when the oppo are 500-2 you would not like to hear the following post day interview:

knighty:  ''So Ben, England have had a bad day bowlers not looking very threatening today, what's it like bowling in 45 degree heat?''

Stokes: '' i'm going to re-arrange your face'

I like to think he's handle himself well in such an interview, and his friendly Northern tenancies would come out...
"Aye, we was f*cking dreadful lad. Get that microphone out me face, I'm off for a pint o' gravy"
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Re: If cook stands down after India who should replace him?
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2016, 03:03:40 PM »

No way in the world Moeen Ali should ever be considered as captain. He's a bits and pieces player and only ever a poor series away from the axe

it's a great suggestion. he's an intelligent understated cricketer. If you take both batting and his bowling he's been invaluable for England.

If you take his bowling alone...agreed although it's getting better.

But an allround contribution England can't do without him....he does both and he's in the team to do both.
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Re: If cook stands down after India who should replace him?
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2016, 03:06:55 PM »

I like to think he's handle himself well in such an interview, and his friendly Northern tenancies would come out...
"Aye, we was f*cking dreadful lad. Get that microphone out me face, I'm off for a pint o' gravy"

it will come as no surprise Nasser is a huge fan of Stokes and the way he plays.

For those that remember Nass as a total hothead capable of flying off the handle

said to of obliterated untold number of bats after getting out against dressing room walls
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Re: If cook stands down after India who should replace him?
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2016, 03:11:35 PM »

Not many stand out candidates.

Root is the obvious choice for me. His attitude is infectious and I think it would pull others along with him.
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