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Felix Tito

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan 2016-2017
« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2016, 05:17:16 AM »

Hi @Felix Tito mate...How do you explain his average of 50, IN England? Didn't realize English pitches were flat, and that the likes of Anderson and Broad on English pitches are so easy to "bully".

He also averages 79 in India (where so many of the world's best are struggling). How many batsmen average 50+ in swinging AND spinning conditions?
You're trying to tell me Younus flogging 200 odd at the oval was on a bowler friendly pitch?

When's the last time Younus played in India? IIRC in the mid 2000s until the end of their big 5 pitches there offered nothing for bowlers. It was a batting paradise every match.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan 2016-2017
« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2016, 05:27:46 AM »

I understand that Asian players perform better on "flat tracks" where it's easier to bat, but why do other countries (which are not considered flat tracks such as England, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand) players struggle scoring runs on flat tracks given it's easier and they score runs in tougher conditions?

It's the human condition I think: people play better on tracks they are accustomed to. It takes a very special batsman to score big in all conditions. At that (international) level,  the name of the game is reactions and muscle memory; these batsman have their reactions hard wired to certain conditions and it is very difficult to re-adjust.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan 2016-2017
« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2016, 06:11:43 AM »

Sarfaraz not out 59, SR 92. He should be batting up in the order, move Azhar to #7 spot.

I enjoyed watching sarfraz bat this morning, he played really well. Amir is also no slouch with the bat. It's just a shame the big guns up the order didn't fire!!

When Warner got 12 in the first over I thought there was going to be fireworks, but the bowlers came back well! They need a couple of quick wickets or they'll be chasing 500 in no time
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan 2016-2017
« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2016, 08:37:13 AM »

Bizarre the aussies didn't enforce the follow on. Smith probably wanted to add to his run tally. The Aussie board won't mind the test going another day
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan 2016-2017
« Reply #49 on: December 17, 2016, 10:10:11 AM »

Bizarre the aussies didn't enforce the follow on. Smith probably wanted to add to his run tally. The Aussie board won't mind the test going another day

Not really, the most difficult time to bat is in the third session under lights so Australia got to bat in the best batting conditions and then make Pakistan face the new ball under lights. It was the obvious move.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan 2016-2017
« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2016, 10:35:55 AM »

Not really, the most difficult time to bat is in the third session under lights so Australia got to bat in the best batting conditions and then make Pakistan face the new ball under lights. It was the obvious move.

Let's be honest pakistan's batting wouldn't have survived long in the afternoon either. Would have made little difference
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan 2016-2017
« Reply #51 on: December 17, 2016, 10:47:24 AM »

Bizarre the aussies didn't enforce the follow on. Smith probably wanted to add to his run tally. The Aussie board won't mind the test going another day

They've got a swimming pool to pay for don't you know!!  ;)
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan 2016-2017
« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2016, 11:12:06 AM »

They've got a swimming pool to pay for don't you know!!  ;)

The comm's were worried next year the barmy army are going to take it over...then again no drinking allowed in that section
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan 2016-2017
« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2016, 03:03:36 PM »

Is Yasir Shah not fully fit? He seemed to bowl far too much on the pads in this match, which he doesn't normally do.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan 2016-2017
« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2016, 09:16:34 PM »

Bad day for Nic Maddinson - 0,1,4 in his three Test innings to date.  Though he is showing constant improvement, I guess...
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan 2016-2017
« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2016, 09:33:52 PM »

Bad day for Nic Maddinson - 0,1,4 in his three Test innings to date.  Though he is showing constant improvement, I guess...


Judging by the highlights I saw, he was sent out with 2 overs till tea, knowing aus was declaring at tea and told to "show us what you can do"

He really wasn't on to a winner............. but sold up the river.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan 2016-2017
« Reply #56 on: December 17, 2016, 09:51:51 PM »

Australia are always chasing their tails with their team selections. Why do they need a biffer at #6? Pick the best player available whether it's Patterson, Head or anyone else.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan 2016-2017
« Reply #57 on: December 17, 2016, 11:31:53 PM »

I'd give Maddinson a chance to settle into the side and see if he has what it takes....
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan 2016-2017
« Reply #58 on: December 18, 2016, 10:00:59 AM »

I was not having a pop at him, more remarking that he had not had a lot of luck in how things have played out. They could have given him a pop up the order with that lead - he certainly appears to have the raw talent.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan 2016-2017
« Reply #59 on: December 18, 2016, 10:06:09 AM »

I was not having a pop at him, more remarking that he had not had a lot of luck in how things have played out. They could have given him a pop up the order with that lead - he certainly appears to have the raw talent.

I've read that a lot to, many people reckon smith should have let him go in instead of him and had more of a chance.
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