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Yasir 14 overs 1 for 124


has the mystery gone for this spinner?

[alexhilly1492]

Yasir 14 overs 1 for 124


has the mystery gone for this spinner?

People have worked out he doesn't turn it much, it's only England who struggle

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People have worked out he doesn't turn it much, it's only England who struggle

to be fair after the 1st test of the summer (last year) I thought we played him very well. Yes he got a lot of wickets at Lords but after that....not much, and it was pretty dry..I will boiling at the Oval for a couple of days last summer.

Its often the way thou initially with spinners who have the 'straight on' delivery. Swanny got a lot of left handers out around the wicket coming back in with the arm

Warne had a fabulous 'skidder' too.

Personally I don't think Yasir is in the same class as Swann,Kumble,Warne(no one is I know).

Once good players work out there's not much spin they seem to play it differently

There's been a lot of hype about Yasir i'm just not sure it was really justified in the first place

[Number4]

to be fair after the 1st test of the summer (last year) I thought we played him very well. Yes he got a lot of wickets at Lords but after that....not much, and it was pretty dry..I will boiling at the Oval for a couple of days last summer.

Its often the way thou initially with spinners who have the 'straight on' delivery. Swanny got a lot of left handers out around the wicket coming back in with the arm

Warne had a fabulous 'skidder' too.

Personally I don't think Yasir is in the same class as Swann,Kumble,Warne(no one is I know).

Once good players work out there's not much spin they seem to play it differently

There's been a lot of hype about Yasir i'm just not sure it was really justified in the first place

Didn't he get a Michelle at the Oval to pretty much win the match for Pakistan though?

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Didn't he get a Michelle at the Oval to pretty much win the match for Pakistan though?

yes..........it was the straight on deliveries again !! 

[Number4]

Ah that's right England can't play a straight ball 

[FattusCattus]

Because you need someone better to replace him, he is our best spinner currently.

Excellent comment.

This is pretty much the same point as the endless debate about Ali and Rashid - they are still in the team because no-one else is knocking down the door to replace them.  Hopefully the likes of Leach, Rayner and Crane will have storming seasons this year and do something about that.

[alexhilly1492]

Ah that's right England can't play a straight ball 

Just like Steve smith can't play the moving ball!

At least for England it's a mentality thing

[Alvaro]

yes..........it was the straight on deliveries again !! 

How many wickets did Kumble get with the straight ball?

[Number4]

Just like Steve smith can't play the moving ball!

At least for England it's a mentality thing

I'll take 4 x 50's and 5 x 100's from 18 matches every day of the week against England Seamers. I think the can't play the moving ball is a little wishful thinking way back early in his career

[Number4]

yes..........it was the straight on deliveries again !! 

I think Root was his bunny as well... From memory most of his wickets were top order batsmen too

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Root got a double ton last summer against Pak, if that's a bunny please pass the carrots 

Steve Smith scores runs, lots of them, a bit like G Smith of SA, looks rough, gets results. He helps his team win-that's what it's about.

As a paying member of the public who watches cricket, I would like to see a classy batsmen to watch personally.

but Smith is not interested in what I think 

If you have a choice of your team winning a test whether you support Eng or Australia you would take a win any means possible - ugly cricket or not.

For those of us lucky to have seen Gower or Lara bat live thou.......it's something that stays with you long after the match has finished thou

that's IMHO which is the latest phase on the forum 

[Number4]

 A bunny is a bit harsh but he did pick him up 3 or 4 times.

I'll take winning test matches over looking good any day 

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of course 

you have had some right bottom handed biffers over the years to watch

Mark Waugh I always thought should of been a Pom he was a fish out of water as an Aussie........now there was one of the world's most stylish batsmen

haha   

[Felix Tito]

of course 

you have had some right bottom handed biffers over the years to watch

Mark Waugh I always thought should of been a Pom he was a fish out of water as an Aussie........now there was one of the world's most stylish batsmen

haha   

Damien Martyn was even more elegant than Waugh imo