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Re: India v England ODI/T20 Matches
« Reply #60 on: January 10, 2017, 03:10:28 PM »

Billings for Morgan and buttler captain.


Hales averaged 60 odd in 2016 and scored one daddy hundred. Why are we trying to drop him?
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« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2017, 03:19:31 PM »

Then we're always going to be wasting someone at 7.

That may well be but, I'm more getting at the fact that everyone is going at Hales, when he's been one of our best players of recent times.

Makes absolutely zero sense. Hales has averaged 43 & scored 4 hundreds since the World Cup. Billings needs to come in somewhere, I agree. But for Hales? Do me a favour..
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Re: India v England ODI/T20 Matches
« Reply #62 on: January 10, 2017, 03:21:01 PM »

Then we're always going to be wasting someone at 7.

Answer is simple...  Drop Morgan..  let Butler captain..  not Stokes as he would be my new test captain (although Root apparently getting it despite new family and not IMHO learnt to cut out silly mistakes that could make him a top,top,top player for next 5 years)..
Morgan for me is not playing enough cricket and is not the player he was..
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Re: India v England ODI/T20 Matches
« Reply #63 on: January 10, 2017, 03:26:26 PM »

Billings not doing himself any harm

Morgan is a wildcard, shocking when out of form, unbelievable when in form
he can win us a game.

tough call getting our best one day team with everyone we are want in

agree with Rob, we might need to squeeze out a bowler.In India anyway.
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Re: India v England ODI/T20 Matches
« Reply #64 on: January 10, 2017, 03:26:45 PM »

Brilliant last few overs, this team knows when to start the bloody car
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Re: India v England ODI/T20 Matches
« Reply #65 on: January 10, 2017, 03:28:34 PM »

Brilliant last few overs, this team knows when to start the bloody car

Is it on sky at all could not see it on
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Re: India v England ODI/T20 Matches
« Reply #66 on: January 10, 2017, 03:31:05 PM »

Is it on sky at all could not see it on

Was on Willow for some reason but had luck finding a stream, had Cricinfo on the go
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Re: India v England ODI/T20 Matches
« Reply #67 on: January 10, 2017, 03:34:51 PM »

Sad way to depart after a lovely innings....Billing will be very very unlucky if he is not picked for the 1st ODI.
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Re: India v England ODI/T20 Matches
« Reply #68 on: January 10, 2017, 03:45:35 PM »

Woakes(y) is bringing it home with a nice match winning 10 not out  :)
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Re: India v England ODI/T20 Matches
« Reply #69 on: January 10, 2017, 03:46:12 PM »

A few positives nonetheless!
Was nice to see that Roy, Hales, Buttler, Dawson and in particular Billings batting well!
I am guessing from the figures that Ali bowled the best spin?
Willey and Ball (as expected) looked decent. A bit of a concern about Woakes but I am guessing that Dhoni was well up for that and he was certainly played in by that last over!
And once he got to his 50 (first ball of the last over) he was always going to hit out! So 23 of Woakes runs were off the final slog.
But with Stokes coming back in it's not a major concern.

So who would people play as their final XI?
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Re: India v England ODI/T20 Matches
« Reply #70 on: January 10, 2017, 03:51:24 PM »

A few positives nonetheless!
Was nice to see that Roy, Hales, Buttler, Dawson and in particular Billings batting well!
I am guessing from the figures that Ali bowled the best spin?
Willey and Ball (as expected) looked decent. A bit of a concern about Woakes but I am guessing that Dhoni was well up for that and he was certainly played in by that last over!
And once he got to his 50 (first ball of the last over) he was always going to hit out! So 23 of Woakes runs were off the final slog.
But with Stokes coming back in it's not a major concern.

So who would people play as their final XI?

alright Pete Jesus no easy questions from you today?  we got to get Stokey in as well?     blimey.......oh and Root to come back.

oh god.

dawson out, only one of Ali or Rashid?
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Re: India v England ODI/T20 Matches
« Reply #71 on: January 10, 2017, 04:03:17 PM »

Hales
Roy
Root
Billings
Butler (Capt)
Stokes
Ali
Dawson
Rashid
Willey
Plunkett /Ball

Slow bowlers will be the way forward so for me in India 3 spinners with Willey/Stokes/Root/Plunkett/Ball bowling the other 20 overs between them...
Do think Plunkett can play when the wicket has bounce in it... Hales worries me against spin and I can see India opening with a spinner if Roy and Hales struggle against spinners in the early games..
Then let Root open and bring back Morgan. Billings for me is the future and a better player of spin than Morgan..
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Re: India v England ODI/T20 Matches
« Reply #72 on: January 10, 2017, 04:08:33 PM »

Ok but if Morgan is definitely in and Captain, then what team selection then?
It looks really difficult to choose!!  :o
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Re: India v England ODI/T20 Matches
« Reply #73 on: January 10, 2017, 04:19:31 PM »

I agree that it is looking really difficult to include Morgan as there is too much talent - and with Morgan not on the best form then it is a tough choice!
I also agree with a comment made earlier that Morgan can be a match winner if he hits form. But I am 99% sure that Morgan will be in the starting XI - so my team would have to be:

Hales
Roy
Root
Billings
Buttler  (W)
Stokes
Morgan (C)
Ali
Rashid
Willey
Plunkett /Ball

If Morgan has to be there, then I think that you cannot put him above Billings, Root or Buttler - especially on current form.
Therefore bat him at either 6 or 7 where there is slightly less pressure and he can still Captain from?
We need Stokes (as all rounder) and 2 other seamers. And if Morgan has to play then for me it is Dawson to miss out! Dawson looked good with the bat but his bowling obviously wasn't great.
You need to play your better spinners regardless - and that was Rashid and Ali. But nothing to stop Root having a bowl if the wicket spins, as he has a real knack for taking wickets!!  ;)

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Re: India v England ODI/T20 Matches
« Reply #74 on: January 10, 2017, 04:30:37 PM »

Ok but if Morgan is definitely in and Captain, then what team selection then?
It looks really difficult to choose!!  :o

Oh.. I agree Pete... Morgan will play. So will Woakes.. Think they will drop a spinner for Woakes and Root will come in for Billings.. 😢😤
Think they need to sort out who bowls at the death... We give away to many runs at the death with poor bowling decisions and field placings.. For me Woakes isn't the answer...
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