Topic: Cricket Bat Mentality (Read 9393 times)

Tom · « **Reply #30 on:** January 17, 2017, 12:07:00 PM »

Quote from: roco on January 17, 2017, 11:52:13 AM

Just from the big brands or across the board?

Why would this be because they need to raise more from exports or because their imports will be costing more?

I can see this affecting softs but struggle to see why this should affect uk made and sourced bats as no importing

Rule 1. Prices always go up in the cricket world!

My thinking (and this is just a hypothesis) is: Even with UK made bats - I cannot see wages decreasing. I also cannot see willow decreasing. Import costs for handles/grips/stickers will have increased significantly. And, like you say, there's an opportunity to raise more from exports if you increase the GBP prices, rather than decrease AUD pricing.

roco · « **Reply #31 on:** January 17, 2017, 12:15:21 PM »

Hmmmm

yes I agree that 1 thing is certain in life is that prices will rise.

I hope they do not raise significantly due to brexit as no need to other than imports getting dearer so soft I can see but not bats.

If they kept prices stable or rise with inflation as usual with the weaker pound it could mean a boom in sales but depends on the business model of selling qty or quality. So lots of small profits or fewer large profits

langer17 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 17, 2017, 12:34:56 PM »

Back in 2011/2012 the Aus dollar was at the same rate compared to the GBP as it is now $1.6 AUD = 1 GBP. Prices are through the roof compared to then.

The reason the bats purchased from here (AUS) into the UK pre-brexit being on par with the market over there (UK) was due to the tanking Aus dollar, so any item purchased from Aus from another country would be laughing. Post brexit has returned it back to how it was back in 2011/2012 which was my heaviest gear buying phase

langer17 · « **Reply #33 on:** January 17, 2017, 12:39:44 PM »

The market in the UK is probably more competitive as more people play cricket over there so it is cheaper as there is more turnover (I think)

You can't even make the same argument as when you compare the US to AUS. IN the US they get most items/sporting gear/clothes etc much chaper than here, but then AUS does have universal healthcare (US obviously introduced something but it's average tbh) and minimum wage so you make the argument that we have it better off. As a diabetic I am very thankful for our healthcare system after reading how it is in the US. AUS and the UK are similar

Jlscarroll17 · « **Reply #34 on:** January 17, 2017, 12:44:03 PM »

For my own experience I have not bought from the 'big' brands for a long time now, as the pricing is just too high for something you could get from a local bat maker, for me the bat can be the ugliest piece of willow around but if it performs and feels nice in my hand then that's fine for me, I've recently just been using butterflies and grade 3 laminates and have noticed if they are prepared properly then there as good as any around. the last time I purchased a grade 1 bat was 2/3 seasons ago I travelled to visit rob pack to ensure the bat felt right and after scoring 1300/1600 runs with it it still pings so id rather go to a local bat-maker than pay over the odds for something that I'm going to be disappointed with which is often the case with the Niger brands a lot aim for quantity over quality

Tom · « **Reply #35 on:** January 17, 2017, 12:52:08 PM »

@langer17 If we look at RRP's (comparing Cricket Direct and Cricket Centre):

The RRP of the GM Luna Original LE in 2011 was �395. The equivalent bat is now at �565. A 43% increase.
In Australia the GM Icon Original LE in 2011 was $690. The equivalent bat is now at $995. A 44% increase.

So comparatively, you're probably right the AU market has always been more expensive - in the same way the Indian market has always been cheapest. I would still argue that right now it probably feels even more pertinent, and painful, because of the now weak GBP.

well past my peak · « **Reply #36 on:** January 17, 2017, 07:33:35 PM »

I think it's reasonable to expect and Uk made bat to cost more to purchase in Aus as would a SK made GN in the UK.
What I would like to understand is the case of a Indian made, who is setting the prices for the coming out of India? and why are they inflating the price of the bat been sold into the AUS market.

steelcouch · « **Reply #37 on:** January 17, 2017, 07:55:57 PM »

"grade 3 laminates" are you allowed to use these?

Tom · « **Reply #38 on:** January 17, 2017, 08:19:51 PM »

Quote from: well past my peak on January 17, 2017, 07:33:35 PM

I think it's reasonable to expect and Uk made bat to cost more to purchase in Aus as would a SK made GN in the UK.
What I would like to understand is the case of a Indian made, who is setting the prices for the coming out of India? and why are they inflating the price of the bat been sold into the AUS market.

Guess it's the same people who set the price of the Chinese made iPhone at $1079AUD ($820USD) compared to the $649 it costs in the USA. In some markets products just cost more.

steelcouch · « **Reply #39 on:** January 17, 2017, 08:37:06 PM »

Import tax, transportation and customs to Aus are fairly significant. All imports be it washing powder to cars hold a fairly big premium i think.

JK Lewis · « **Reply #40 on:** January 17, 2017, 10:22:57 PM »

Surely all Aussies should be supporting their local industry, where young guys like JP Gavan, and Billy Barge at Vandal Cricket, are making some tremendous bats, and selling them at reasonable prices. Callen has gone, Fisher is downsizing, get out and help those lads to develop and grow, it has to be in the best interests of the industry, and cricket in general, down there.

http://www.jpgavan.com/

http://www.vandalcricket.com/

Shinpathy · « **Reply #41 on:** January 17, 2017, 10:30:29 PM »

The pricing for Vandal custom bats is very reasonable!

Aussiecollector · « **Reply #42 on:** January 17, 2017, 11:53:55 PM »

Young josh is a top bloke & very easy to deal with sydney based & his featherweight blade are awesome you want a top class repair or refurb he is the man steve smith loves his work

lazza32 · « **Reply #43 on:** January 18, 2017, 01:24:44 AM »

My issue with local batmakers is the use of Aussie willow. I'm uncertain about it and am reluctant to spend $500 to test it out.They don't have stock in the local retail so once again I can't test it out.

Players edition GM is AUS$1500 at GCCC
Players edition GM is US$649 = AUS$861 at cricket merchants

the difference is too much to ignore. I chose GM as an example because their bats are all made in one place and are consistent

Nmcgee · « **Reply #44 on:** January 18, 2017, 02:26:22 AM »

Quote from: JK Lewis on January 17, 2017, 10:22:57 PM

Surely all Aussies should be supporting their local industry, where young guys like JP Gavan, and Billy Barge at Vandal Cricket, are making some tremendous bats, and selling them at reasonable prices. Callen has gone, Fisher is downsizing, get out and help those lads to develop and grow, it has to be in the best interests of the industry, and cricket in general, down there.

http://www.jpgavan.com/

http://www.vandalcricket.com/

I agree.

Unless I'm out of the loop, Ian Callen is still going strong in Victoria too.

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