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[brokenbat]

Being a budding offie myself, I always like seeing how conventional offies like Herath, Ashwin (and even Shoaib Malik, vs Wade recently) fox batsmen with the slider.

This is by far the best video I have seen that breaks down the subtle difference between a big spinning offie, and the slider (skip to the 3:02 mark) to watch a side by side comparison, in slow motion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4CvA4cy6Yc&t=381s

[WalkingWicket37]

I bowl "off spin" and send down a lot of "sliders", with the one that actually turns being a surprise ball (if I don't know when it's going to turn the batsman can't possibly know...)

Anyone else?

[tom line]

I attempt to bowl off spin, my variations when it starts getting smashed in nets is either to start bowling leg spin, seam or left arm instead, all equally as bad as each other 😂

[Vulcan Cricket]

Bowl dossra

[sarg]

I attempt to bowl off spin, my variations when it starts getting smashed in nets is either to start bowling leg spin, seam or left arm instead, all equally as bad as each other 😂

ditto, minus the left armers. Only thing that slides is my chance of bowling in a game.

[tommo256]

Just varying pace and flight is enough to pick wickets up, let natural variation play its part

[ProCricketer1982]

Don't over complicate things

Learn to bowl accurately so you can land 5 out of 6 on an a4 piece of paper even when under pressure. Once you can master that, start to look at bowling the Same ball but slightly slower (use when someone is slogging or blindly charging every ball (for some reason people think charging regardless is good spin play)). Then, once you have that get a slightly flatter and quicker one for the dudes who go back or simply don't move and do them for pace basically.


After that, try and turn one of your first six balls to let the batter know you can turn it and from then on, I wouldn't care about it turning or not as you want the threat of spin or not rather than all spin or all not.

Remember, most players have one of here methods at amateur level

Stand there and try hit, be that through the line or sweeping everything like duckett.
Charge every ball regardless
Stand there and get bogged down

Very very few actually even attempt to play it properly and that's probably why teams with two genuinely decent foe their level spinners win so many games.

[ProCricketer1982]

Just varying pace and flight is enough to pick wickets up, let natural variation play its part

If people are honest, how many teams have you played when players are genuinely happy to take singles.. you know that after a few overs (as you always get a few dots) the batters will do something reckless.. just know where said slog wil come and have the field ready for it

[Lumsden]

Choosing the right end can be crucial.
1. My first choice is where the wind is blowing from leg to off and the windier the better.
2. If your line is quite widish outside off stump, choose the end with longer boundary straight down the ground. However if your line is straighter, you're more likely to be hit squarer so choose the end with the longer leg side boundary.

Top Tip. I have found a small percentage of right handed batsmen absolutely murder my off spinners so if you have the misfortune to come up against one of these, cheese him off by firing something full, quick and wide down the leg side that neither he or the keeper can get to and don't worry about the bye down to fine leg. Most umpires don't give wides down the leg side so chances are it will go down as a dot ball in your bowling analysis.   
 

[ProCricketer1982]

Choosing the right end can be crucial.
1. My first choice is where the wind is blowing from leg to off and the windier the better.
2. If your line is quite widish outside off stump, choose the end with longer boundary straight down the ground. However if your line is straighter, you're more likely to be hit squarer so choose the end with the longer leg side boundary.

Top Tip. I have found a small percentage of right handed batsmen absolutely murder my off spinners so if you have the misfortune to come up against one of these, cheese him off by firing something full, quick and wide down the leg side that neither he or the keeper can get to and don't worry about the bye down to fine leg. Most umpires don't give wides down the leg side so chances are it will go down as a dot ball in your bowling analysis.

Umm leg side wides ??

[hopwoodbear]

as a offie that doesnt turn it a great deal most of my wickets come from building pressure.

it never fails to amaze me how some top class bats get themselves in to a pickle with a lack of pace on the ball and no freebies on offer.

im more of a containing bowler rather than attacking wicket taker, my stock ball tends to be a dart, short of a full length attacking the off stump, encouraging the batsmen to play but if they go for the sweep or big shot across the line then there is the risk of lbw and bowled. throw in a quicker fuller ball and a flighted one that does turn and it creates a bit more doubt.

interesting that the better batsmen i bowl against the more conventionally they play and the more success i seem to have, play 2nd team and i get a bit more tap

[ProCricketer1982]

interesting that the better batsmen i bowl against the more conventionally they play and the more success i seem to have, play 2nd team and i get a bit more tap

Common issue for spinners. Start off in the 2/3/4/5 and get smashed and give up or at least not given a chance. Lower calibre of player only has hit out so down the ladder you either rip a team apart or get torn apart. Becomes random more than anything.

You see it at all levels though, that hitter who simply stands and hits.. comes off or doesn't.. win lose cricket for you.

For the spinners who worry about just being dry and not ripping teams apart.. don't worry.. if you Can bowl say 10'overs and only go for 30 or less runs.... you're good as win lose especially is a question of runs not wickets

[Jaffa]

As a leggie that's been learning the trade for the last few years I'll share my thoughts about the journey I'm on.

I have a type of slider but it has only been of any real use after I learnt to put the ball where I wanted to with turn.

I think that's where Warne got alot of his wickets. The batsmans mindset was on trying to anticipate the flight and expect the turn. Then he'd fire one in and surprise them.