Advertise on CBF

Pages: [1] 2 3

Author Topic: Churchy's Net(s)  (Read 7371 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Churchy1989

  • International Captain
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1525
  • Trade Count: (+1)
Churchy's Net(s)
« on: January 25, 2017, 02:18:12 PM »

As I have seen others upload their net sessions and seeking advice, I thought I would seek peeps kind advice.

Main things learnt from this session is to keep my back foot pointing to point, not moving it and to wait a tad longer before pressing with my leading foot. In the early parts you will see my right (back) shoulder comes through as I press forward to early, then bring my back foot through.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfgYn8R96TQ&feature=youtu.be

My next net session (excluding Southern Net) will be facing 80mph tennis balls from a fielding machine for short bowling. That could be an interesting video.

All comments welcome.

NEW VIDEO BELOW:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljosafN7NDw&feature=youtu.be
« Last Edit: February 04, 2017, 01:09:25 PM by Churchy1989 »
Logged
Insta / Twitter @Church_Cricket

jamesisapayne

Re: Churchy's Net(s)
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2017, 02:40:06 PM »

It's quite hard to see too much detail @Churchy1989 as the camera is quite far away but it looks like you've got a good range of shots.

From my perspective, you don't seem to move your head into the shot and your front foot is not doing much at all regardless of the line of the ball - i.e. it stays on middle stump when playing the ball outside of off, even when it's a foot or more outside.

You can kind of get away with this when the ball is full and you're playing half volleys but as soon as someone bowls good length balls you'll be fishing and nicking off for a past time.

I'd definitely look at some drills to get your feet moving more and to make sure your head and front foot are getting in correct line to play the ball on its merit. At the moment you look like you're playing the ball from the same position every time.

That's just my 2 pennies worth but hopefully it will help.
Logged

smilley792

  • Forum Legend
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 8755
  • Trade Count: (+10)
  • Willoooowwwww
Re: Churchy's Net(s)
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2017, 02:58:01 PM »

I don't like commenting on these as my technique is attrotious. But even if I can't play properly hopefully I can see something in a video to help.


The bowling machine, seems to be on the usual half volley length but with occasional swing and different lines.
Despite this your front foot movement is identical for every ball, it moves forward and across slightly.

It means your stretching to the wide balls, and end up plum to a few on middle and leg that swing.

So I'm gonna guess the foot movement is pre meditated, expecting the pitched up ball.
I find this hard not to do to a bowling machine, hence preferring proper bowlers(machines are good for practicing certain shots over and over again mind.

What h buzzes video, watch the ball, move your head towards it and let you body and foot follow, this should give a bigger stride and also a stride toward the ball, whatever length it is.






as for the 80mph bouncer net, do you face 80 mph bouncers on very bouncy tracks? If not it's really not worth doing this practice,  use the time to work on something neeeded.
Logged
@chrisjones792
Fastest ton- 54balls

Churchy1989

  • International Captain
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1525
  • Trade Count: (+1)
Re: Churchy's Net(s)
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2017, 03:05:24 PM »

The Video has not uploaded that well. Its clear on my PC.

Agree with your comments. If its wider outside off I would move back and across to cut.

From watching the Video I am shocked as I didn't think I moved or played anything like that lol. weird.
Logged
Insta / Twitter @Church_Cricket

ppccopener

  • Forum Legend
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7790
  • Trade Count: (+6)
Re: Churchy's Net(s)
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2017, 03:09:12 PM »

the camera is quite far away Church but......not bad at all, you have some decent shots.

head position is real important and different people will have views how best to achieve that, you might even get opposite advice here on the forum because people will say what has worked for them. But good that in your mind you are open to comments good and bad.

technical advise is tricky because change one thing and something else might change with it in a negative way.

I would be thinking about really basic stuff like trying to get your head in line with the ball and how best to balance the head. Ive had shocking problems in the past with an unbalanced head(falling over to the offside)

it took a year to get a trigger movement(back leg across) and then a solid back leg in stance....so the problem got less for my set up(but it's still there a bit)

but that might not work for you...so how best to balance the head, once that's balanced it's easier to 'move into the ball' which you prob need to do more as per James above.
Logged

Seniorplayer

  • Forum Legend
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6236
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: Churchy's Net(s)
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2017, 03:29:30 PM »

When the ball is there to be hit with little movement of your feet you look decent to hit the ball on the offside your front foot needs  to get more towards the offside and towards the ball  but appreciate there is not much time between deliveries your bat doesn't always come down straight also try lead  with your head that way everything else will follow.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2017, 03:34:01 PM by Seniorplayer »
Logged

Buzz

  • Administrator
  • International Superstar
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 12679
  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Clear your mind, stay still and watch the ball
Re: Churchy's Net(s)
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2017, 03:31:53 PM »

I agree with what James says above also your bat doesn't always come down straight, it comes through in a but if an arch. This suggests that you are strangling the bat a little with your bottom hand, which is impossible to see for sure on the video
Logged
"Bradman didn't used to have any trigger movements or anything like that. He turned batting into a subconscious act" Tony Shillinglaw.

six and out

  • International Captain
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2136
  • Trade Count: (0)
    • MKCC website
Re: Churchy's Net(s)
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2017, 03:37:32 PM »

I pretty much agree with what everyone has said above.

I would like to open a further debate i have often considered and that is about the use of Bowling Machines in general.

I really find them bad for practice and often have made my technique worse. I think this has a lot to do with the fact that i have a trigger movement and getting the timing right when using a bowling machine and someone feeding can often prove tricky.

Also i find a lot of people just go into 'hitting mode' or 'shot a ball' - as the others have said it just becomes repetitive and if you are doing it incorrect it can make things worse plus a massive thing for me as an opening batsman is a find that i end up not leaving any balls - so fish at deliveries i should be leaving etc...

it is each to their own of course.... thoughts?


 
Logged

Churchy1989

  • International Captain
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1525
  • Trade Count: (+1)
Re: Churchy's Net(s)
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2017, 03:38:52 PM »

I agree with what James says above also your bat doesn't always come down straight, it comes through in a but if an arch. This suggests that you are strangling the bat a little with your bottom hand, which is impossible to see for sure on the video

I was testing out a couple of new bats both Short Blades and struggled all net with them (will bring to the southern net session, Short Blade is not for me). I saw that in my stance the bat isn't always in the same position and when its facing 2nd slip, it all goes horribly wrong.

Think I nail a Extra Cover drive around 3.29 - baring in mind I could not drive for (No Swearing Please) at all last year, relied mostly on cutting and hoiking, I'm happy that I'm getting to hit the ball in the right areas. Foot movement next on the list after short balls (my and a mate use the net for an hour and he want to practise that, I'm happy to learn)

Logged
Insta / Twitter @Church_Cricket

Seniorplayer

  • Forum Legend
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6236
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: Churchy's Net(s)
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2017, 03:53:54 PM »

I pretty much agree with what everyone has said above.

I would like to open a further debate i have often considered and that is about the use of Bowling Machines in general.

I really find them bad for practice and often have made my technique worse. I think this has a lot to do with the fact that i have a trigger movement and getting the timing right when using a bowling machine and someone feeding can often prove tricky.

Also i find a lot of people just go into 'hitting mode' or 'shot a ball' - as the others have said it just becomes repetitive and if you are doing it incorrect it can make things worse plus a massive thing for me as an opening batsman is a find that i end up not leaving any balls - so fish at deliveries i should be leaving etc...

it is each to their own of course.... thoughts?

You have nailed it as an opening bat it's important part of  your game you need to practice what to leave   That's why I never use a bowling machine
Logged

ppccopener

  • Forum Legend
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7790
  • Trade Count: (+6)
Re: Churchy's Net(s)
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2017, 03:56:14 PM »

You have nailed it as an opening bat it's important part of  your game you need to practice what to leave   That's why I never use a bowling machine

I don't understand this section here, senior can you explain what you mean why you don't use one.

When a few of us net at Eversley some of the guys don't like the machine, whereas I would be on it all day long.

Just trying to understand what you mean

tks
Logged

Buzz

  • Administrator
  • International Superstar
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 12679
  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Clear your mind, stay still and watch the ball
Re: Churchy's Net(s)
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2017, 04:10:52 PM »

Logged
"Bradman didn't used to have any trigger movements or anything like that. He turned batting into a subconscious act" Tony Shillinglaw.

Seniorplayer

  • Forum Legend
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6236
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: Churchy's Net(s)
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2017, 04:18:52 PM »

No problem to clarify in the nets  with different bowlers coming at you get more variation  ball after ball therefore you have to be more alert around off stump which makes you sharper when judging what to leave also I like a few seconds between balls to set myself up  for the next delivery so I know where my off stump is and what balls  can be left knowing where my stumps are particually offstump seems to work for me  as on match day as I am rarely bowled I also find that if you are a good leaver opening new ball bowlers
Fall in to the make him play mindset and give you something to hit
« Last Edit: January 25, 2017, 04:30:55 PM by Seniorplayer »
Logged

six and out

  • International Captain
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2136
  • Trade Count: (0)
    • MKCC website
Re: Churchy's Net(s)
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2017, 04:21:30 PM »

@six and out see http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=22759.0


Must admit Buzz i didn't know about the 'Auto Variant/Random' setting - i will have a look to see if ours at the club has it.
Logged

ppccopener

  • Forum Legend
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7790
  • Trade Count: (+6)
Re: Churchy's Net(s)
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2017, 04:28:51 PM »

No problem to clarify in the nets  with different bowlers coming at you get more variation  ball after ball the bowling therefore you have to be more alert around off stump which makes you sharper when judging what to leave also I like a few seconds between balls to set myself up  for the next delivery so I know where my off stump is knowing where my stumps are seems to work for me  as on match day as I am rarely bowled

Ah yes I see where you are coming from.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3
 

Advertise on CBF