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[Seniorplayer]

Yes Derek underwood a bowler who could wear a hole in. The pitch by  pitching  the ball in the same spot.

[WalkingWicket37]

Don't think it was that big a call they all had there opportunity  around the same time but didn't  cut it

Shaun Udal didn't make his Test debut until he was 36, he didn't get the opportunity he deserved at all.

Gareth Batty made his debut against Bangladesh in October 2003 and played 7 Tests between then and June 2005, so he was hardly given a fair chance considering he was in and out of the side in this time.

Graeme Swann played a single ODI in 1999, but his behavior meant he fell out of favor with the powers that be, so he wasn't exactly given an opportunity until he made his Test Debut 9 years later!

[Seniorplayer]

Shaun Udal didn't make his Test debut until he was 36, he didn't get the opportunity he deserved at all.

Gareth Batty made his debut against Bangladesh in October 2003 and played 7 Tests between then and June 2005, so he was hardly given a fair chance considering he was in and out of the side in this time.

Graeme Swann played a single ODI in 1999, but his behavior meant he fell out of favor with the powers that be, so he wasn't exactly given an opportunity until he made his Test Debut 9 years later!

Not just his approach
Swann was a different bowler in 2008 by  then he had mastered his art.

[t2ylo]

Root v Kohli v Smith v Williamson v ABdV (if only)

It is a golden time for cricket

[ProCricketer1982]

Root v Kohli v Smith v Williamson v ABdV (if only)

It is a golden time for cricket

Golden ??

Really?

Maybe in white ball cricket but certainly for from golden in test cricket.

[t2ylo]

That Indian Top 7
Ashwin & Jadeja
Rabada & de Kock
Warner
Cook unburdened
Hameed
Bairstow/Buttler/Ali/Stokes
The rise of Afghanistan & Ireland
Australia looking annoyingly balanced AND dangerous
Pakistan being, well, Pakistan
With the FOUR best players of their generation as captains

The glass is half full...

Falling crowds
Kolpak desertion
Windies & Sri Lanka in 'transition'
UK tickets prices way too high
Not on free to air TV

Admittedly not perfect!!!

[ppccopener]

for all those on here that see the England team as some sort of amateur  private club it's now interesting (to me anyway) how the KP saga is now coming out-what really happened, presuming Cook is telling the truth(which I believe he is)

it was Cook and Prior who got Pieterson back into the England side after the 'textgate' issues. Cook got the blame and took some almighty horrible stuff throw his way including threats against his family, and then you have Piers bloomin Morgan thrown in as well.

Now Cook says the ECB hung him out to dry.....

Cook still has an England career ahead of him but can now speak freely.

It all comes out in the wash as me old mam says

 

[csnew]

Just read cook blaming the ECB for the KP decision - thought cook had said it's either KP or him.
Bit bizarre that!. Cook's a good man at shifting the blame?

[wasted_talent]

To be fair, pretty sure no one actually believed it was cook's decision alone?

I would imagine, like cook says, there were several people involved in making that decision over KP. But unfortunately Cook seems to have had to take most of the blame!

[smilley792]

Just read cook blaming the ECB for the KP decision - thought cook had said it's either KP or him.
Bit bizarre that!. Cook's a good man at shifting the blame?

Serious question as it was years ago and I've forgot most donut.

Was it confirmed cook ever said that? Or just rumours.

[ppccopener]

worth remembering the main fall out was KP and Flower and Strauss

you can never be sure with these things but to my knowledge Cook and Prior were the main 2 players bridging the gap for KP to return


for Cook to then take the blame is beyond belief

Cook now says we was hung out to dry, which I reckon is exactly how it was

Flower wanted KP out for undermining him. there was one hellva personality clash there, there wasn't with Cook and KP

[wasted_talent]

worth remembering the main fall out was KP and Flower and Strauss

you can never be sure with these things but to my knowledge Cook and Prior were the main 2 players bridging the gap for KP to return


for Cook to then take the blame is beyond belief

Cook now says we was hung out to dry, which I reckon is exactly how it was

Flower wanted KP out for undermining him. there was one hellva personality clash there, there wasn't with Cook and KP

indeed. the cook and kp relationship always seemed ok
looks like ecb just needed to shift the blame onto someone other than themselves!

[Seniorplayer]

read that Cook first made the decision to resign as Captain on the plane back from India following the  4 - 0 defeat in the tests he states he know  longer has  the energy to do the job over cooked maybe.

[Northern monkey]

He looked 'overcooked' during interviews I thought.
Never really rated him as a captain, but batting wise, he's a star.

This thing with KP is starting to wear thin now, it's in the past, hopefully lessons have been learned ,(I doubt it) and Root will be up to the job

It will be interesting to see how he copes

[wasted_talent]

related to cook standing down... its going to make for interesting viewing at Essex.

With Chorpa, Nick Browne, Cook, Westley, Bopara, Tendo, Lawrence, Foster, Wheater... that's a lot of batsmen to fit into the playing XI?