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Re: New Skipper
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2017, 10:55:29 AM »

No beehive or dislike just a case of you need guys who can consistently  do there job  at home and away from The UK

To be fair, judging by this winter it's more than half the bloody team.
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Re: New Skipper
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2017, 11:05:06 AM »

Woakes has been a pretty successful skipper when he has done the job for his county
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Re: New Skipper
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2017, 12:21:56 PM »

Root only has 4 first class games as captain too, right?

Had Cook captained Essex much before he was made captain?
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Re: New Skipper
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2017, 12:25:46 PM »

Woakes has been a pretty successful skipper when he has done the job for his county

England  need a skipper who is going to be  without question your first name on the team sheet
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Re: New Skipper
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2017, 12:28:52 PM »

England  need a skipper who is going to be  without question your first name on the team sheet
Why?
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Re: New Skipper
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2017, 12:34:00 PM »

Doesn't have to be 1st on sheet but has to be sure of his place in his own right not just in because he is a good captain

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Re: New Skipper
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2017, 12:42:11 PM »

Why?

Okay you need a Captain who is going to be a regular in the side some one  you know  is going to be worth his place over a long period apart from  injuries.
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Re: New Skipper
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2017, 12:44:24 PM »

Doesn't have to be 1st on sheet but has to be sure of his place in his own right not just in because he is a good captain

That's what I meant. Usually though  when your Captain and available and have no loss of form   your names the first on the team sheet.
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Re: New Skipper
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2017, 12:44:29 PM »

Okay you need a Captain who is going to be a regular in the side some one  you know  is going to be worth his place over a long period apart from  injuries.

I'd agree to an extent with that, but I'd disagree 100% that you always want your best player to be skipper.
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Re: New Skipper
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2017, 12:49:13 PM »

How do you explain Mike Brearley then? Undoubtedly one of England's finest captain's but by most people's thoughts wouldn't have got into that side at all if he wasn't skipper.

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Re: New Skipper
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2017, 12:53:12 PM »

Mike Brearley the academic deep thinker and the  best captain Ian Botham said he played at  test level for.
Seem to recall England needed an opening bat Brearley took the job  and  when  you consider the around the world test bowlers he was facing  he did a decent job .
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Re: New Skipper
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2017, 12:57:51 PM »

Woakes is certain of a place in our test team. Not really saying he has any chance of the captaincy, but to think he shouldn't be in the team isn't fair.
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Re: New Skipper
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2017, 01:13:07 PM »

Woakes is certain of a place in our test team. Not really saying he has any chance of the captaincy, but to think he shouldn't be in the team isn't fair.
Nothing to do with fairness
 where' was the consistency in India  also think that if  England have all there bowlers fit and firing  by the end of the U.K. Season and looking towards Australian conditions later  this year he may not  be as certain of his place in the side  as some think.
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Re: New Skipper
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2017, 01:17:37 PM »

I'd agree to an extent with that, but I'd disagree 100% that you always want your best player to be skipper.
Never suggested that your best player should be skipper that's been proven many times not to work.
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Re: New Skipper
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2017, 01:51:53 PM »

Never suggested that your best player should be skipper that's been proven many times not to work.
England need a skipper who is going to be without question your first name on the team sheet

Hmmmm.
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