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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #60 on: March 03, 2017, 09:39:08 PM »

Chris woakes well done son.

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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #61 on: March 03, 2017, 10:17:11 PM »

Chris woakes well done son.
Not really
The first 2 wickets the. batsman threw there wicket away with poor shots and the  next two wickets the number 8 and 9  have an average of  13 and 4 respectively  the stats  won't  show  you that.
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #62 on: March 03, 2017, 10:28:23 PM »

Not really
The first 2 wickets the. batsman threw there wicket away with poor shots and the  next two wickets the number 8 and 9  have an average of  13 and 4 respectively  the stats  won't  show  you that.

Haha are you for real? 2 top order wickets and 2 at the end, I would say that is a pretty good days work for a seam bowler in an ODI. All 3 seamers bowled well although I am starting to worry about Finns missing 10mph
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #63 on: March 03, 2017, 10:38:48 PM »

@LateBloomer as much as I'd love to see him do well I don't think Finn is England xi standard anymore I would have rather seen t.c given a game to see what he can do
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #64 on: March 03, 2017, 10:39:34 PM »

Not really
The first 2 wickets the. batsman threw there wicket away with poor shots and the  next two wickets the number 8 and 9  have an average of  13 and 4 respectively  the stats  won't  show  you that.

He could get all 10 wickets and you would still think it was a rubbish spell!! Come on the bloke bowled well.
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #65 on: March 03, 2017, 10:41:56 PM »

@LateBloomer as much as I'd love to see him do well I don't think Finn is England xi standard anymore I would have rather seen t.c given a game to see what he can do

Yes it does seem that way which is a shame as he was capable of getting good players out, certainly in test cricket. I wouldnt write him off completely as hes not over the hill but he needs that extra pace back
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #66 on: March 03, 2017, 10:43:59 PM »

There's too many players in or around sniffing about to give him too much time to rediscover what he had
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #67 on: March 03, 2017, 10:45:15 PM »

Senior player you say the 2 top order batsman threw their wickets away. Ask yourself why do (most) batsman throw their wickets away? Its generally because the bowlers are building pressure through not giving any freebies.
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #68 on: March 03, 2017, 10:45:58 PM »

Senior player you say the 2 top order batsman threw their wickets away. Ask yourself why do (most) batsman throw their wickets away? Its generally because the bowlers are building pressure through not giving any freebies.

Because the format demands risk taking shots
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #69 on: March 03, 2017, 10:48:05 PM »

Senior player you say the 2 top order batsman threw their wickets away. Ask yourself why do (most) batsman throw their wickets away? Its generally because the bowlers are building pressure through not giving any freebies.

I reckon Chris Woakes's grandad gave senior player a wedgie and stole his lunch money.
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #70 on: March 03, 2017, 10:50:45 PM »

Funny to think Woakes has 9 4 wickets(2 are actually 6fers) yet I'm still amazed how he does it. Straight up and down brisk medium pace. No x factor. Only behind Broad(10), Gough(12) and Anderson(13). And he's not remotely in the class of those 3...
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #71 on: March 03, 2017, 10:51:55 PM »

There's too many players in or around sniffing about to give him too much time to rediscover what he had

That may be the case but the England selectors are quite loyal at the moment. I dont actually think England need him as much in ODI cricket as they do in Test match cricket going forward. Plenty of one day options for England but in Tests, with Mark Wood out we are lacking extra pace, and with an Ashes tour approaching that is a worry.
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #72 on: March 03, 2017, 10:54:10 PM »

Because the format demands risk taking shots

Of course it does, its limited overs cricket
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #73 on: March 03, 2017, 11:06:34 PM »

I don't think pace is particularly a worry we have plenty of people who can bowl early 90's it's just comparing them to someone like starc who can bowl nearly 100 mph deadly accurate Yorkers it makes our guys look like the u14's at your local club
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #74 on: March 03, 2017, 11:07:37 PM »

I don't think pace is particularly a worry we have plenty of people who can bowl early 90's it's just comparing them to someone like starc who can bowl nearly 100 mph deadly accurate Yorkers it makes our guys look like the u14's at your local club

Loads of people who can bowl 90mph?? Who is actually bowling consistently at 90mph and isn't made of glass??
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