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LateBloomer

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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #90 on: March 04, 2017, 10:32:47 AM »


As for Anderson v Woakes  comparision Jimmy was a far better bowler at the same age.

I dont think anyone has suggested they are the same bowler but Woakes is certainly the best of the rest at the moment as far as England are concerned. Add his lower order batting and a tidy fielder and I think England have a useful cricketer for the next few years

You seem to have an unhealthy negative opinion of Woakes which is very very weird. I would say he's gonna be involved for the forseeable future so I'd get used to his face
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #91 on: March 04, 2017, 10:36:19 AM »

@RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie
Meaker, Overton, mills, Jordan, Finn, broad, plunkett, stokes

Mills the only bowler regularly in the 90s and he is T20 only. Meaker occasionally gets in the 90s but is a spray gun. The rest are mid/high 80s. I wish we had that many fast bowlers!! 
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #92 on: March 04, 2017, 10:38:32 AM »

Having watched the match the 2 top order players Woakes got out looked very ordinary regardless who was bowling 2 poor shots to balls that they could have left but didn't and the 2 at the end well they were tailenders with an ave of 13 and 4 just throwing the bat as the  game was all but lost.

I watched the match aswell. Its not Woakes fault the West Indies are currently poor. Maybe your anger should be towards the West Indies cricket board instead of an English bowler who beat what was put in front of him
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #93 on: March 04, 2017, 11:11:59 AM »

Mills the only bowler regularly in the 90s and he is T20 only. Meaker occasionally gets in the 90s but is a spray gun. The rest are mid/high 80s. I wish we had that many fast bowlers!!

Meaker is also made of glass
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #94 on: March 04, 2017, 11:16:33 AM »

@LateBloomer speaking about test matches only, even some of the quickest guys around who are capable of bowling 95 mph don't bowl consistently over 90 I think I read somewhere that Mitchell Johnson usually averaged about 86 in test matches over longer spells it's not really that important being able to bowl 6 balls in a row over 90 at the compromise of accuracy, think Shaun tait, there's a reason he's called the wild thing
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #95 on: March 04, 2017, 11:20:15 AM »

Did anyone see if they gave a reason for stokes not bowling? Had to turn off as soon as it finished
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #96 on: March 04, 2017, 11:27:40 AM »

@LateBloomer speaking about test matches only, even some of the quickest guys around who are capable of bowling 95 mph don't bowl consistently over 90 I think I read somewhere that Mitchell Johnson usually averaged about 86 in test matches over longer spells it's not really that important being able to bowl 6 balls in a row over 90 at the compromise of accuracy, think Shaun tait, there's a reason he's called the wild thing

You mentioned 90mph bowlers in county cricket not me. I think the simple answer is we do not have them.

Which comes back to my original point - why the selectors are persevering with Finn in the hope he regains that extra yard that has given the Aussies the hurry up on more than one occasion in the past
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #97 on: March 04, 2017, 11:33:13 AM »

Finn is pure glass... Has been since No ball gate and the odi series against NZ in '15
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #98 on: March 04, 2017, 12:20:03 PM »

I dont think anyone has suggested they are the same bowler but Woakes is certainly the best of the rest at the moment as far as England are concerned. Add his lower order batting and a tidy fielder and I think England have a useful cricketer for the next few years

You seem to have an unhealthy negative opinion of Woakes which is very very weird. I would say he's gonna be involved for the forseeable future so I'd get used to his face

Not negative unhealthy or weird called it as I saw it as for getting used to Woakes face I think we already are as unlike you on this forum he as been around awhile now
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #99 on: March 04, 2017, 12:22:32 PM »

I watched the match aswell. Its not Woakes fault the West Indies are currently poor. Maybe your anger should be towards the West Indies cricket board instead of an English bowler who beat what was put in front of him

This one as already been answered also  your right it's not hard to get poor players out.
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #100 on: March 04, 2017, 01:01:58 PM »

Not negative unhealthy or weird called it as I saw it as for getting used to Woakes face I think we already are as unlike you on this forum he as been around awhile now

Ouch! Stuck the knife in because I have fewer posts than you. That hurts!

You must be correct, Woakes is rubbish and you are nowhere near borderline obsessive
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2017, 01:17:39 PM »

Ouch! Stuck the knife in because I have fewer posts than you. That hurts!

You must be correct, Woakes is rubbish and you are nowhere near borderline obsessive
Borderline obsessive  or balanced opinion  also
Rubbish is not a word i use to discribe a member of the national team
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #102 on: March 05, 2017, 01:17:46 PM »

And we're having a bowl
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #103 on: March 05, 2017, 01:19:41 PM »

Perfect.... club nets at 2 hopefully home in time for us batting feet up with a beer
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Re: England in the West indies
« Reply #104 on: March 05, 2017, 02:00:50 PM »

Ah, the glory of the the Watford Wall
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