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A different idea
« on: March 01, 2017, 04:03:52 PM »

One thing about helmets is how hot they can get, when you have been batting for a while on a summer afternoon. What if I wanted just a grille arrangement that encompassed my whole head, not just the bit in front of my face. It could be attached to a stiff headband of some sort, adjustable to the right size and with a chin strap, but did away with the traditional 'helmet' bit. Might look a bit weird at first glance, but it would be light and cool, with good visibility, and probably protective enough if done properly.
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Re: A different idea
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2017, 04:20:34 PM »

Almost like the Aero keeping mask but all over the head? Would be an interesting concept!

http://www.aerocricket.com/equipment/kpr-equipment/kpr-face.html

I'm sure @Tom will give us a good reason why not! (Other than it would look horrific haha)
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Re: A different idea
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2017, 04:26:38 PM »

With wicket keeping your more certain of which direction the ball is coming to you from and generally just moving laterally to gether it....where as batting with the range of shots you are prone to exposing various areas of the head/face/neck region.

The shell to the helmets offer a solid structural base which to anchor the grille too, I can see what you mean by a rigid "headband" but the movement and force of a 65mph ball from 0.6m away to pass testing is very significant and would cause the flexion/deformation of the headband quite easily I'd imagine due to it being circular in shape with no real structural material to reduce this.

The design below was something that was produced around the same time I was at the drawing board....

http://www.designscene.net/2009/12/cricket-helmet-by-ravinder-sembi.html
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Re: A different idea
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2017, 04:49:58 PM »

The design below was something that was produced around the same time I was at the drawing board....

http://www.designscene.net/2009/12/cricket-helmet-by-ravinder-sembi.html


That's quite an interesting one actually - presumably, with the right quality of materials, that'd still offer the same protection with the honeycomb structure wouldn't it? Would certainly help with sweat/heat etc
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Re: A different idea
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2017, 09:18:31 PM »

Tom , if you make a holey honeycomb helmet I'll buy it !
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Re: A different idea
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2017, 09:22:16 PM »

Tom , if you make a holey honeycomb helmet I'll buy it !

We used to make a 12 vent Carbon version for Sangakkara as it's a lot easier to keep structural integrity intact in Carbon vs plastic.
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Re: A different idea
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2017, 09:24:38 PM »

We used to make a 12 vent Carbon version for Sangakkara as it's a lot easier to keep structural integrity intact in Carbon vs plastic.

Surely you want alot of ventilation towards the forehead and top of the head.. alot of helmets dont seem to have a wide enough access for this. (masuri vents for example)

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Re: A different idea
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2017, 09:41:38 PM »

Surely you want alot of ventilation towards the forehead and top of the head.. alot of helmets dont seem to have a wide enough access for this. (masuri vents for example)

It's about getting a balance between ventilation v protection as the test house will identify a ventilation feature as the weakest point of the helmet and focus on the area for drop testing on in order to ensure it passes still.
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Re: A different idea
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2017, 08:52:10 AM »

With wicket keeping your more certain of which direction the ball is coming to you from and generally just moving laterally to gether it....where as batting with the range of shots you are prone to exposing various areas of the head/face/neck region.

The shell to the helmets offer a solid structural base which to anchor the grille too, I can see what you mean by a rigid "headband" but the movement and force of a 65mph ball from 0.6m away to pass testing is very significant and would cause the flexion/deformation of the headband quite easily I'd imagine due to it being circular in shape with no real structural material to reduce this.

The design below was something that was produced around the same time I was at the drawing board....

http://www.designscene.net/2009/12/cricket-helmet-by-ravinder-sembi.html


Nice one. I like that honeycomb, it's a good compromise solution for sure. I'd wear it.
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Re: A different idea
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2017, 09:39:17 AM »

Agree with those comments, would be a brilliant idea I'd definitely buy one. I force myself to wear a helmet at the moment but I hate it just find it horrible having no ventilation on a hot day.
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Re: A different idea
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2017, 11:17:37 AM »

I would buy a 12 vent carbon version for sure ! I guess the lining would have to be eps to work around all the holes ? Also , would a 12 vent be less or more weight ? ( I'm guessing less , but perhaps not ). Either way , part of what i love about my ayrtek helmets is the ventilation , but i could always do with way more .
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Re: A different idea
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2017, 12:00:37 PM »

I would buy a 12 vent carbon version for sure ! I guess the lining would have to be eps to work around all the holes ? Also , would a 12 vent be less or more weight ? ( I'm guessing less , but perhaps not ). Either way , part of what i love about my ayrtek helmets is the ventilation , but i could always do with way more .

I'll deffo have one if it makes me bat like Sangakkara!
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Re: A different idea
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2017, 01:52:45 PM »

I once played against a guy who wore a cycling helmet out to bat.  He could play a bit too.  In fact looking back maybe it was a distraction technique!
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Re: A different idea
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2017, 03:00:47 PM »

With wicket keeping your more certain of which direction the ball is coming to you from and generally just moving laterally to gether it....where as batting with the range of shots you are prone to exposing various areas of the head/face/neck region.

The shell to the helmets offer a solid structural base which to anchor the grille too, I can see what you mean by a rigid "headband" but the movement and force of a 65mph ball from 0.6m away to pass testing is very significant and would cause the flexion/deformation of the headband quite easily I'd imagine due to it being circular in shape with no real structural material to reduce this.

The design below was something that was produced around the same time I was at the drawing board....

http://www.designscene.net/2009/12/cricket-helmet-by-ravinder-sembi.html


I once played against a guy who wore a cycling helmet out to bat.  He could play a bit too.  In fact looking back maybe it was a distraction technique!


Hi @Ayrtek Cricket,

I remember seeing this concept that you have mentioned many years ago and I used to think that it will be great to have such thing since it will have a lot of air circulation. Was this helmet ever built and was it your concept?

Thanks,
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Re: A different idea
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2017, 03:04:19 PM »

@sachin200 It wasnt my design no, and im not sure it ever made it beyond the concept stage as its not a particulary cheap process to have something made up such as this due to tooling costs etc.
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