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Re: Royal London One Day Cup 2017
« Reply #75 on: May 15, 2017, 12:47:10 PM »

Colin Ingram is in some kind of form...

Looks like an incredible game at Swansea yesterday; Darren Stevens hit 14 sixes!
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Re: Royal London One Day Cup 2017
« Reply #76 on: May 15, 2017, 01:03:05 PM »

I think that is mostly about the lack of genuine pace in county cricket.  If you were to try and name five bowlers who hit 88mph on a regular basis, who would you go for?

Wood does.  Pattinson I suspect does.  But then who?  Plunkett, Finn and Helm can do it infrequently.  Maybe De Langa and Viljoen, though both seem a tad slower in English conditions and with English demands...
Although I agree to an extent (lack of serious pace in world cricket, never mind just the counties), there's got to be a decent few who at least semi-regularly hit 88mph in limited overs? Little bit of guesswork as some of these I haven't seen bowl on TV recently, but off the top of my head Fiddy/Meaker/Footitt/Fuller/Overton/Dernbach have all been known to regularly put it down at pace.
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Re: Royal London One Day Cup 2017
« Reply #77 on: May 15, 2017, 01:29:09 PM »

I would say Footitt is the quickest bowler I have seen in the CC in recent times.

I think there are definitely a lot of club cricketers who would get a bit of a shock if they actually faced some of county cricket's so-called 'dibbly dobblies'.

I'd like to think that Foakes would be picked by England for his keeping; though his good batting form is obviously a bonus.

The scheduling of the county season desperately needs some kind of continuity and consistency, rather than tinkering every year. With this wretched new thing around the corner, I'm not expecting it to come any time soon.

Free live streaming could be an interesting development.



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Re: Royal London One Day Cup 2017
« Reply #78 on: May 15, 2017, 02:39:15 PM »

I would say Footitt is the quickest bowler I have seen in the CC in recent times.

I think there are definitely a lot of club cricketers who would get a bit of a shock if they actually faced some of county cricket's so-called 'dibbly dobblies'.


Absolutely, our opening quick is very good and bloody rapid but the best he's been timed at is upper 70's
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Re: Royal London One Day Cup 2017
« Reply #79 on: May 15, 2017, 02:56:16 PM »

Facing a County bowler is a scary experience.

but if we are talking about the Championship, I would argue years ago it was better quality. with 2 overseas players allowed.

ummm..anyone fancy facing Sylvester Clarke or Allan Donald  :)  or Joel Garner or Malcolm Marshall.
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Re: Royal London One Day Cup 2017
« Reply #80 on: May 15, 2017, 03:03:59 PM »

Facing a County bowler is a scary experience.

but if we are talking about the Championship, I would argue years ago it was better quality. with 2 overseas players allowed.

ummm..anyone fancy facing Sylvester Clarke or Allan Donald  :)  or Joel Garner or Malcolm Marshall.

It was bloody brilliant! But county cricket now is a lot better than people give it credit for.

I miss the characters. And being able to remember the games because you understood them as part of a continuing history.

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Re: Royal London One Day Cup 2017
« Reply #81 on: May 15, 2017, 03:09:06 PM »

The scheduling of the county season desperately needs some kind of continuity and consistency, rather than tinkering every year. With this wretched new thing around the corner, I'm not expecting it to come any time soon.

Free live streaming could be an interesting development.
I've quite liked the games being in blocks so far this year, makes the county season a lot easier to follow if you know what competition is currently being played rather than a jumble of 3 going on at once. At first look it seems to have improved the quality too, scores have been pretty high for the most part with a lot of big individual knocks and a fair amount of quality international players around. Please oh please can they sack off the new t20 rubbish and just carry on like this with better coverage! Maybe playing formats in blocks will even let them stop the madness that is scheduling almost all the CC games Monday-Thursday, so that nobody with a job can go and watch them.
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Re: Royal London One Day Cup 2017
« Reply #82 on: May 15, 2017, 03:09:22 PM »

It was bloody brilliant! But county cricket now is a lot better than people give it credit for.

I miss the characters. And being able to remember the games because you understood them as part of a continuing history.



Yes I agree, I was referring specifically to the standard of bowling, it's a more aggressive entertaining now for sure. but if you look thou @edge 's list of genuine quality bowling(quicks) maybe just me but i'm compleley underwhelmed.

Not sure Dirtbach or Overton are even half decent.

Look back thru County Championship bowling wise...you will find some real quality bowling. And I didn't even mention Waqar and Wasim for Surrey and Lancs.
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Re: Royal London One Day Cup 2017
« Reply #83 on: May 15, 2017, 03:14:35 PM »

Yes I agree, I was referring specifically to the standard of bowling, it's a more aggressive entertaining now for sure. but if you look thou @edge 's list of genuine quality bowling(quicks) maybe just me but i'm compleley underwhelmed.

Not sure Dirtbach or Overton are even half decent.

Look back thru County Championship bowling wise...you will find some real quality bowling. And I didn't even mention Waqar and Wasim for Surrey and Lancs.
Ha, I'll point out in defence it was only a list of blokes who get it down the other end quickly! I don't think it's just county cricket to be fair, the quality of world fast bowling is not what it used to be.
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Re: Royal London One Day Cup 2017
« Reply #84 on: May 15, 2017, 03:14:44 PM »

Garth Le Roux and Imran Khan at Sussex.
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Re: Royal London One Day Cup 2017
« Reply #85 on: May 15, 2017, 03:16:06 PM »

The best spinners used to bowl 8 or 9 hundred overs a year. That's got to make you a better bowler!
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Re: Royal London One Day Cup 2017
« Reply #86 on: May 15, 2017, 06:52:21 PM »

Tino Best playing club cricket in the East Anglia Prem this season. I was lucky enough 12 years ago to get invited to net with Kent 2nd team and academy over the winter and I can say I went from being a decent Prem level bat to a walking wicket against the quicks not just the pace but what these pro's and elite sports players can do with the ball just set you up really.
Not seen any CC or 1day cricket yet this season but footit does look sharp on TV this season
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Re: Royal London One Day Cup 2017
« Reply #87 on: May 15, 2017, 07:07:10 PM »

Stood behind the batsman's end to watch Footit bowl at Glos a couple of seasons ago, his bouncer is seeeriously quick. Did not look enjoyable to bat against at all.
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Re: Royal London One Day Cup 2017
« Reply #88 on: May 15, 2017, 07:26:38 PM »

@SOULMAN1012 I've heard he is being paid £700 a game to play East Anglian prem!! He's figures haven't been a lot to write home about either!
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Re: Royal London One Day Cup 2017
« Reply #89 on: May 15, 2017, 07:43:28 PM »

@SOULMAN1012 I've heard he is being paid £700 a game to play East Anglian prem!! He's figures haven't been a lot to write home about either!

No idea how much he is being paid by Mildenhall CC to be honest. Quite a big club with lovely facilities and may have a rich sponsor prepared to pay that much. A few of our lads went and watched his first game and he was bowling some real gas by all accounts just didn't make batsmen play enough they said. Must be good to have a player like that in the changing room though get an extra 10% out the others players I would imagine
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