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[ppccopener]

a little lesson in patience for myself recently, might help others............you would like having played for years I would know a bit about bats 

anyway got a GM 808 last year maxi model, pre knocked in-ready to play etc etc......

fiddled around with it in nets, didn't seem to have much of a middle the preverbial 'dud'

sold it to a team mate who said he liked it, used it a bit, gave it back to me  about 3 weeks ago and said it was 'dead'.

well.......there me thinking ive wasted 150 quid on an iron bar so gave it a real good old ball session in the nets and slowly it's starting to come to life and now im keeping it. the rebound now is far far better than last year and it seems a different bat.

so....a bit of patience might pay off. I still dont really believe this 'ready to play' myself and I do believe some bats are presser firmer than others depending on the brand. For example I never had this with salix or newbery.

but, as I say in future I will not be discarding bats quite so quickly

 

[wasted_talent]

interesting
but I guess it depends on how much patience one is willing to have

I have a H4L Monster pro - 5 years old now.
it was good from day one.
And it is simply amazing right now!

[it's_a_pudding]

Had a similar situation with a gray nicolls didn't like it much then started using it pre season and it has pinged ever since.

[Kulli]

Hard to give it time when you have 15 other new bats ready to go. Best to rent it to a teammate

[mo_town]

I have always wondered about the logic behind bats which are late bloomers...firstly there is the logicthat bats with less grains take time to open up where as the grainier ones start performing almost from the get go. Then of course there is the factor of pressing..

So when people say that some bats take time to open up, are they referring to the time in general i.e. the bat will take x months/years to open up or is that in reference to the number of balls the bat hits. So for e.g. if a guy owns a bat which hasnt opened up and he barely scored 50 runs all season with it, will it still open up next season?

[ppccopener]

I have always wondered about the logic behind bats which are late bloomers...firstly there is the logicthat bats with less grains take time to open up where as the grainier ones start performing almost from the get go. Then of course there is the factor of pressing..

So when people say that some bats take time to open up, are they referring to the time in general i.e. the bat will take x months/years to open up or is that in reference to the number of balls the bat hits. So for e.g. if a guy owns a bat which hasnt opened up and he barely scored 50 runs all season with it, will it still open up next season?

good question...don't know the answer.  I can tell you the bat I have which I am referring to has 12-14 grains and has some hardwood but not much.....

I have always thought,and always been told, less grains will play the same as more grains over time-but needs much more knocking in.

personally I believe it all boils down to the pressing of the bat...I have had a H4L with 5 grains that was soft from the word go and went like a train......but like anything it's a natural product and im not a batmaker.. although I often  wish I was   

[Seniorplayer]

a little lesson in patience for myself recently, might help others............you would like having played for years I would know a bit about bats 

anyway got a GM 808 last year maxi model, pre knocked in-ready to play etc etc......

fiddled around with it in nets, didn't seem to have much of a middle the preverbial 'dud'

sold it to a team mate who said he liked it, used it a bit, gave it back to me  about 3 weeks ago and said it was 'dead'.

well.......there me thinking ive wasted 150 quid on an iron bar so gave it a real good old ball session in the nets and slowly it's starting to come to life and now im keeping it. the rebound now is far far better than last year and it seems a different bat.

so....a bit of patience might pay off. I still dont really believe this 'ready to play' myself and I do believe some bats are presser firmer than others depending on the brand. For example I never had this with salix or newbery.

but, as I say in future I will not be discarding bats quite so quickly

 

Never believed that any bat is ready play but think some bats are pressed just enough to get the bat beyond its manufactures warrenty.

[Seniorplayer]

good question...don't know the answer.  I can tell you the bat I have which I am referring to has 12-14 grains and has some hardwood but not much.....

I have always thought,and always been told, less grains will play the same as more grains over time-but needs much more knocking in.

personally I believe it all boils down to the pressing of the bat...I have had a H4L with 5 grains that was soft from the word go and went like a train......but like anything it's a natural product and im not a batmaker.. although I often  wish I was   

Yes all down to the pressing of the bat I've a bat hawk made for me  in 2011 pings better now than when new.

[Seniorplayer]

I have always wondered about the logic behind bats which are late bloomers...firstly there is the logicthat bats with less grains take time to open up where as the grainier ones start performing almost from the get go. Then of course there is the factor of pressing..

So when people say that some bats take time to open up, are they referring to the time in general i.e. the bat will take x months/years to open up or is that in reference to the number of balls the bat hits. So for e.g. if a guy owns a bat which hasnt opened up and he barely scored 50 runs all season with it, will it still open up next season?

if two bats are pressed the same the
Older willow bat which will have more grains  and generally opens up quicker if they both have the same amount of use.          the more you use your bat the sooner it opens up

[adb club cricketer]

Yes, it might open up after a long time, but with so many bats around that go from day 1,  or a week at most, who wants to spend a season or two using the non performing bat that doesnt go. Even if used only in nets, i would rather prefer blasting balls off with a performing bat and get some resultant confidence going. I think those who play every day can consider it, but for us folks who get to bat for 10-20 mins at nets for once/twice a week, it doesnt seem worth it..

[justnotcricket86]

I can second this. I too have a H4L Monster that is coming up to it's 6th season. The toe has totally gone in 4 places with splits about 4in long in some places, and it's held together with about 3oz of bat tape and a prayer every time I go out to bat. However when I get hold of one, it goes miles.

I refuse to let go of it until it shatters into a thousand pieces. Which could well be tomorrow in my first game of the season.

The lad @hell4leather cricket makes a belter of a cricket bat

[ppccopener]

I can second this. I too have a H4L Monster that is coming up to it's 6th season. The toe has totally gone in 4 places with splits about 4in long in some places, and it's held together with about 3oz of bat tape and a prayer every time I go out to bat. However when I get hold of one, it goes miles.

I refuse to let go of it until it shatters into a thousand pieces. Which could well be tomorrow in my first game of the season.

The lad @hell4leather cricket makes a belter of a cricket bat

great to hear those members really hanging on to a great bat. H4L of all the makes lots on here say they do go well with minimal knocking in

[jd163]

I got a rejected Kookaburra Biggest Kahuna (made in 2011) 3 years ago from a friend. It was pretty much a plank so i used it in nets just to use a heavy 2-14 bat. This bat is now my T20 match for last 2 years. Anything from the middle lands 20 meters outside the boundary. I am OK with giving bats time or lending it to friends to achieve top performance quickly.

[Righthand]

Yes, it might open up after a long time, but with so many bats around that go from day 1,  or a week at most, who wants to spend a season or two using the non performing bat that doesnt go. Even if used only in nets, i would rather prefer blasting balls off with a performing bat and get some resultant confidence going. I think those who play every day can consider it, but for us folks who get to bat for 10-20 mins at nets for once/twice a week, it doesnt seem worth it..

Absolutely agree with this. When I was a kid all my elder cousins used to have bats that would take a season to open up- those were days of the past. These days you have so many bats that open so quickly whats the point of waiting? Also what are you going to do with the rest of the bats waiting to be used

[Seniorplayer]

Yes, it might open up after a long time, but with so many bats around that go from day 1,  or a week at most, who wants to spend a season or two using the non performing bat that doesnt go. Even if used only in nets, i would rather prefer blasting balls off with a performing bat and get some resultant confidence going. I think those who play every day can consider it, but for us folks who get to bat for 10-20 mins at nets for once/twice a week, it doesnt seem worth it..

This has to be right but how can you be sure when you buy  a new bat  it will go from day 1