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[rickjames]

This is why you never ask 'who's winning?' when it comes to cricket

[ppccopener]

Tms on the way home from work Dawson not up to it according to them
Which does beg the question with 2 spinners the 'ideal team' do we still look for another or dump that plan and get back woakes asap?
Pretty obvious rashid is not in favour in tests now

Mo seems to have a problem being the sole number 1 spinner :-)

[Seniorplayer]

Tms on the way home from work Dawson not up to it according to them
Which does beg the question with 2 spinners the 'ideal team' do we still look for another or dump that plan and get back woakes asap?
Pretty obvious rashid is not in favour in tests now

Mo seems to have a problem being the sole number 1 spinner :-)

Having watched  it
Don't think any spinner in the country would have done much today on that track.
 Also  don't get this  spinner number 1  Dawson and  spinner no 2  Mo business coming out of the England camp when Ali took ten last match.

[ppccopener]

Well senior......it appears Mo despite being the best we have (arguably) he feels better being the lesser spinner as in he is likely to play better and sees himself as a top 5(not in my book) batter who bowls a bit. A batsman who bowls so to speak.

So another spinner is in but there's no way he can be expected to be the No 1 having played just a couple of tests and may or may not be good enough in the long run....

They say cricket is in the mind, some things don't change!!

I'm a bit confused myself(don't take much).... For what it's worth I think Mo is a very good player, about number 7 and decent spinner...

His record is up there wickets wise and runs. but he can't play he short quick stuff and that means he won't make the top 5

Perhaps I've confused myself 

[InternalTraining]

His record is up there wickets wise and runs. but he can't play he short quick stuff and that means he won't make the top 5

He used to be an opener in his county days? I find it surprising that an ex-opener can't handle short ball. I thought that was a pre-requisite for an opener.

[Seniorplayer]

He used to be an opener in his county days? I find it surprising that an ex-opener can't handle short ball. I thought that was a pre-requisite for an opener.

Here's the difference in county cricket you rarely  face  two worldclass quicks  in the same match

[Big Mac]

He used to be an opener in his county days? I find it surprising that an ex-opener can't handle short ball. I thought that was a pre-requisite for an opener.

Batted at three I think but yes, you're right. I think the difference is that at test level you're facing better bowlers, whereas in county cricket you might face a proper test-class fast bowler just three or four times a season as opposed to facing two or three in every game.

[Tailendfielder]

I think Liam Dawson has been stitched up a little.

I think its a poor selection anyway but selecting two spinners at Trent Bridge after struggling on a bunsen is a tough ask. His gotta score runs. Cause i cant see him picking up more wickets than TRJ would have, or scoring enough runs to justify picking hi, over a proper batter.

He might end up being my Chris Woakes @Seniorplayer

[billyb]

I'd just play Crane or Rashid. Can't see anything that Dawson offers over either- he isn't nearly as economical as I thought.

[Seniorplayer]

I think Liam Dawson has been stitched up a little.

I think its a poor selection anyway but selecting two spinners at Trent Bridge after struggling on a bunsen is a tough ask. His gotta score runs. Cause i cant see him picking up more wickets than TRJ would have, or scoring enough runs to justify picking hi, over a proper batter.

He might end up being my Chris Woakes @Seniorplayer

As England want a number one spinner
Like they have done with Woakes and others they  should stick with Dawson and   see what he can do on a pitch and in conditions that are helpful

[Shinpathy]

Openers both out,

Jennings getting found out nonstop.

[six and out]

Openers both out,

Jennings getting found out nonstop.

Bit harsh on Jennings that was an absolute nut that got him.

[Shinpathy]

Bit harsh on Jennings that was an absolute nut that got him.

His start to Test Cricket would have been worse if he had been caught on 0 vs India in his first innings.

[six and out]

His start to Test Cricket would have been worse if he had been caught on 0 vs India in his first innings.

Maybe so. But isn't that what cricket is all about the what ifs and then the character it takes to go on from there to make the most of your chances.

[rickjames]

One of the best 50s I've seen for awhile when we were really under the gun.