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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #375 on: July 20, 2017, 12:08:12 PM »

Got to feel for Stoneman. Still dont think Jennings is ready yet and he's still getting a shot. What more does the lad have to do

Absolutely..do you think England don't want three left handers in the top three?
If so....we'll...I'm not sure that's right

Jennings gut feeling is he don't have the game for the top-maybe filling time till Hameed is back
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #376 on: July 20, 2017, 12:14:06 PM »

On a positive note I'm sure Stoneman will get his opportunity to open the batting in the Ashes this winter...good luck with that!

Hopefully he will be given a run against the Windies but you would assume that would be a one sided series and runs should be easier to come by for all England batsmen.

Malan is a poor selection, ODI's fine but Test matches? What more has Stoneman got to do?

Brilliant news for Mildenhall's own Tom Westley though  :D

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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #377 on: July 20, 2017, 12:16:21 PM »

I could possible see them going with:
Cook
Jennings
Westley
Root
Malan
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Broad
Wood
Anderson
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #378 on: July 20, 2017, 12:17:33 PM »

On a positive note I'm sure Stoneman will get his opportunity to open the batting in the Ashes this winter...good luck with that!

Hopefully he will be given a run against the Windies but you would assume that would be a one sided series and runs should be easier to come by for all England batsmen.

Malan is a poor selection, ODI's fine but Test matches? What more has Stoneman got to do?

Brilliant news for Mildenhall's own Tom Westley though  :D

Like they did with Lyth last time?
Chucked him straight in againse NZ and OZ then on your bike thanks for coming after playing two of the better bowling sides in the world at the time
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #379 on: July 20, 2017, 12:33:11 PM »

I could possible see them going with:
Cook
Jennings
Westley
Root
Malan
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Broad
Wood
Anderson

agree with this except TRJ for wood, get wood back to durham and taking wickets again, hasnt looked like taking any this series which is a shame!
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #380 on: July 20, 2017, 12:34:38 PM »

ECB selectors heads have gone, what a joke to pick Malan.

They've also said that they'll be no debutants come the Ashes so Stoneman has to either play against the Windies or not at all. What has the guy to do to get into the squad, become south African?
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #381 on: July 20, 2017, 12:40:39 PM »

Like they did with Lyth last time?
Chucked him straight in againse NZ and OZ then on your bike thanks for coming after playing two of the better bowling sides in the world at the time
Difficult isn't it? Do you pick someone against a lesser bowling attack to give them some exposure to test cricket knowing that they might excel against a weaker bowling attack or do you throw them in at the deep end against a top bowling attack in the biggest test match atmosphere.

I know if I was lucky enough to play test cricket I would rather face the WI at home and get some test match cricket under my belt before I went out and played in Australia.

Tough being a selector but you can't help but wonder if Stoneman will ever get a chance. Perhaps they just don't like the look of him (oh wait TB can't be bothered to go and watch him). 

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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #382 on: July 20, 2017, 12:42:16 PM »

I hope Malan is an inspired Trescothick / Vaughan style pick - an average county performer with the balls for Test Cricket.

So many so called 'talented' run machines in county cricket cannot make the grade at Test level.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #383 on: July 20, 2017, 12:43:15 PM »

I personally think malan is a decent pick his average in all forms is decent. I think a decent selection would have changed jennings for Stoneman, also my worry is if they do pick TRJ is will be a very similar attack so wood would get the nod if fully fit. Also Bairstow to bat above Stokes due to form.

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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #384 on: July 20, 2017, 12:46:23 PM »

Problem is any player picked against tenth ranked Windies won't tell you if they are good enough to tour Aus.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #385 on: July 20, 2017, 12:48:36 PM »

Yeah anyone who they are seriously looking at for the winter should surely be given ago against WI at the back end of the summer.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #386 on: July 20, 2017, 12:50:56 PM »

the talk of who to allow people to make a debut against is baloney, Trott did ok making debut vs ashes in a must win game if i recall correctly, stokes also made his debut in aus and im pretty sure he's turned out ok!

if theyre good enough to represent england then pick them it doesnt matter if its SA, WI or AUS we still have to play our best team!
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #387 on: July 20, 2017, 12:51:35 PM »

Quote from Aggers on the bbc sport website re: Malan

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Malan is an interesting selection. If you look at how England played at Trent Bridge, everyone was saying knuckle down, but they have gone for someone whose career is built around T20 cricket.

He has had a decent first-class summer and England are looking at him to bat after Moeen Ali.

Which suggests Dawson out for Malan leaving the order as

1. Cook
2. Jennings
3. Westley
4. Root
5. Bairstow
6. Stokes
7. Ali
8. Malan
9. Broad
10. Anderson
11. TRJ/Wood

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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #388 on: July 20, 2017, 12:57:52 PM »

Can't see Malan batting 8 :)
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #389 on: July 20, 2017, 01:03:54 PM »

Quote from Aggers on the bbc sport website re: Malan

Which suggests Dawson out for Malan leaving the order as

1. Cook
2. Jennings
3. Westley
4. Root
5. Bairstow
6. Stokes
7. Ali
8. Malan
9. Broad
10. Anderson
11. TRJ/Wood

Sure the following looks like a stronger lineup??
1. Cook
2. Stoneman
3. Jennings
4. Root
5. Westley
6. Stokes
7. Bairstow
8. Ali
9. Broad
10. Anderson
11. TRJ/Wood

Shame - with Stoneman instead of Malan, the bowling is the same strength, but the batting looks stronger and even offers Jennings the chance to bat at 3 (where he looks stronger), makes the top 5 look stronger and means that Stokes, Bairstow and Ali will be making a crazy strong 6, 7 and 8!!
But it's not going to happen so will just go and make myself a cuppa!
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