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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #420 on: July 21, 2017, 05:31:14 PM »

I seem to be alone in thinking that Malan is a damn good shout?

The word around the county scene is that he is one of the very best players of pace - talked about in a sentence with Bairstow, Pietersen and Bell.  And that is what we will need down under in six months time.
Never watched him bat that much previously, but he looked so so comfortable against Morkel/Morris in the t20 so I'd happily believe that! T20 and tests may be a completely different game but he certainly made an impression, got to count for something.
Also, Malan/Stoneman/Westley actually all have really similar first class records so I see no problem at all in picking the two middle order bats for the two middle order slots available.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #421 on: July 21, 2017, 05:34:25 PM »

So happy for the Westley family. I played a little bit with and a fair bit against Tom whilst growing up, and against the wider Westley family for many years in our league until their teams relegation down the pyramid in the last 2 or 3 seasons. We were always terrified that Tom would turn up to play if he fancied a hit! Even without Tom the Westley family were a challenge to play against. I still have nightmares of his dad Adie running in to bowl at me, a series of play and misses, streaky edges and generally being made to look like a novice with no arms before the inevitable bowled or nick was usually how it went! Huge man with a big bristling moustache, hands like buckets that made the ball look like a marble.
We still joke now when a bowler complains about a league ball being awful and not shining/swinging etc that 'Adie Westley could probably swing an orange so stop your moaning!'
Adie is also responsible for the biggest six most of my teammates have ever seen, the ball is rumoured to still be in orbit now, 8 or 9 years after it left his bat.

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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #422 on: July 21, 2017, 06:19:04 PM »

I seem to be alone in thinking that Malan is a damn good shout?

The word around the county scene is that he is one of the very best players of pace - talked about in a sentence with Bairstow, Pietersen and Bell.  And that is what we will need down under in six months time.

I've no problem with Malan's call up, though I suspect he won't play. Samit for Dawson might have strengthened the batting without altering the balance. But I can understand people thinking he might have had enough chances already.

I seem to remember Bairstow being found out by pace in his early days as an England player?
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #423 on: July 23, 2017, 03:47:48 PM »

Mark Stoneman missed out on selection because he is left handed  England reluctant to have  left handers  batting one two and three  against Morkal and philander
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #424 on: July 23, 2017, 04:29:21 PM »

Believe you are correct and the fact Bayliss hasn't seen him with not help.

I think myself picking a top order based on whether you are right or left handed is fundamentally flawed

Losing confidence in this test series as we go on, don't think England will turn this round. SA are useful and battle away pretty well
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #425 on: July 23, 2017, 04:42:57 PM »

Agree Carlo right or lefthanded  shouldnt matter you pick your best
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #426 on: July 26, 2017, 11:35:49 AM »

Crucial test starting tomorrow are we really playing 8 batsmen to leave the bowling one short? Can Dawson play and turn it round...or just turn it....what will rabada say to stokes this time?
All questions no answers
Personally I fear we are not coming out of the Oval with a win
Hope I'm wrong but the batting too reliant on cook and new skips
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #427 on: July 26, 2017, 11:39:42 AM »

Looks like Wood is out and Toblerone makes his debut
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #428 on: July 26, 2017, 11:46:15 AM »

Looks like Wood is out and Toblerone makes his debut

A rare outing for Newbery?
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #429 on: July 26, 2017, 11:52:06 AM »

Dom cork , James Kurtley, and way back to gatting?
Cant remember any other Newbery users off the top of my head
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #430 on: July 26, 2017, 12:30:14 PM »

 From the England camp Malan  included in  the squad  as he  he scores  runs with character
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #431 on: July 26, 2017, 12:41:46 PM »

So looks like it will be....

Cook, Jennings, Westley, Root, Malan,
Stokes, Bairstow, Ali,
R-Jones, Broad, Anderson

if the wicket is normal English wicket or swap Malan out for Dawson in if it looks like a spinners wicket?

I still would have preferred Cook, Stoneman, Jennings, Root, Westley, Stokes, Bairstow, Ali, R-Jones, Broad, Anderson to be honest!
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #432 on: July 26, 2017, 12:57:25 PM »

England Test Series results since 2014

Sri Lanka, lost 1-0 (H) (2 test series)
India, won 3-1 (H) (5)
West Indies, drew 1-1 (A) (3)
New Zealand, drew 1-1 (H) (2)

Australia, won 3-2 (H) (5)
Pakistan, lost 2-0 (A) (3)
South Africa, won 2-1 (A) (4)
Sri Lanka, won 2-0 (H) (2)
Pakistan, drew 2-2 (H) (4)
Bangladesh, drew 1-1 (A) (2)

India, lost 4-0 (A) (5)
 
·         Four series wins from 11. Those in highlighted in bold are those which are, frankly, embarrassing for a Big Three side, a number of those losses were where 100 overs have not been completed in both innings combined.
·         15 wins and 16 losses in 37 Tests...

I fully expect South Africa to win. England are bang average, and moving one or deck chairs around will make little difference. There is just a paucity in international quality batting (and bowling) in county cricket. Root is the last debutant batsmen to be truly worth his place and not be so technically deficient in one area that he has been completely worked out after 7 games.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #433 on: July 26, 2017, 01:06:42 PM »

Dom cork , James Kurtley, and way back to gatting?
Cant remember any other Newbery users off the top of my head

Kudos stickers don't show up well on the telly.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #434 on: July 26, 2017, 01:10:16 PM »

Must have been a case for replacing Wood with Footitt? Even with being homesick, he's bowled supremely well on this ground in recent times.
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