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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #480 on: July 27, 2017, 03:22:21 PM »

Playing the extra batsman looks a good call but England may well miss the second spinner  when SA bat last.
Still think Rashid at the Oval would have been a good call.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #481 on: July 27, 2017, 03:32:25 PM »

Playing the extra batsman looks a good call but England may well miss the second spinner  when SA bat last.
Still think Rashid at the Oval would have been a good call.

Yes maybe but we cant play an extra batter and still have another spinner in that leaves 3 seamers including stokes
Sounds like the wicket is green so seamers will do the damage it appears
Glad westley looked good...we really do need to find a 3, Jennings is not the answer either
We seem to have more questions than answers at the moment
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #482 on: July 27, 2017, 04:54:34 PM »

Happy to see Cook doing well! I hope he goes on to break records! Benji should be the captain, Root should focus on records too.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #483 on: July 27, 2017, 05:26:01 PM »

Yes maybe but we cant play an extra batter and still have another spinner in that leaves 3 seamers including stokes
Sounds like the wicket is green so seamers will do the damage it appears
Glad westley looked good...we really do need to find a 3, Jennings is not the answer either
We seem to have more questions than answers at the moment
England need another opener a number 3 bat
And a fourth seamer   wicket taker   Thinking ahead Without one how are England going to take 20 wickets a match to win in Aus.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #484 on: July 27, 2017, 06:32:33 PM »

With Woakes in the side we look a far, far better team on paper. Any ideas when he'll be back?
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #485 on: July 27, 2017, 06:39:07 PM »

West Indies series and yeah allround he is missed
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #486 on: July 27, 2017, 09:52:29 PM »

With Woakes in the side we look a far, far better team on paper. Any ideas when he'll be back?

Couldn't agree more, Woakes nowadays is a top quality cricketer in all regards and looked like a brilliant Test match bowler last summer - a real miss. Very interested to see how Roland-Jones goes in this match, I've got a nagging feeling he'll do well. Can't help but feel that a look at a current England Test XI doesn't exactly strike fear into the hearts of oppositions - no-one apart from bog standard Division 2 bowlers are scared by the prospect of bowling to Keaton Jennings and, likewise, no-one is scared of facing someone like Liam Dawson.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #487 on: July 27, 2017, 10:03:05 PM »

Watched the highlights. Jennings does look very out of form and and low on confidence - hope something clicks for him.
Wonder how much longer he will be given?
Westley looked promising! He needed to give himself time to get himself settled again after lunch but hopefully he will learn from that - was a decent ball though!! Root got squared up a bit by a decent ball too. Too early to have a look at Malan.....that was a beast of a ball and is the kind of ball you would have to be really unlucky to get  :o
Fresh day tomorrow so see what occurs. A daddy hundred from Cook with a couple of batsmen backing him up would be nice! Hard to judge what a good score is on this wicket but really need to aim for 350 from here to make it competitive!
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #488 on: July 27, 2017, 10:22:48 PM »

It's been said a million times but it's a big jump from county to test cricket. England see something in Jennings, personally having watched him I really cannot see why he is highly rated.minimum foot movement and you have to be a very good player to get away with that. He reminds me of Marcus trescothick in style but tresco was exceptional and fearless, he really took on the bowlers.

Westley if you watching the same highlights I am holding said very early where to bowl to him. I hope he does well and learns an offside game to match his superb on side play. If he is bright and wants to learn (I'm sure he is) there's potential.

I really don't think myself England will move forward until we sort out the batting, for years we have been too reliant on two or three.

Hameed is the one to open with Cook, he's got to be the long term bet how would he go against an Aussie pace attack? Don't know.....he won't go on tour unless he plays in the windies series I don't think.

Tough call for the selectors, do they throw Hameed back in with no from behind him. He's a young player still.

Cook is a different class thou, you can only admire the bloke, old fashioned cricketer? Yes but who cares, it's about winning matches, 5 an over and all out in 50 overs we will lose matches.....

Just my thoughts  :)
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #489 on: July 27, 2017, 10:41:09 PM »

@ppccopener I saw hammeed at Trent bridge in a 50 over game vs Notts who had jimmy pattinson bowling seriously quick and looked at ease against it! About the only lancs batsmen too, I wouldn't have a worry about him coping down under,

Westley to me looks the part, get woakes back and an opener (hammeed) in form and were there I reckon
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #490 on: July 28, 2017, 05:47:28 AM »

Not sure Jennings is lasting long enough to even know if he's out of form! Saw him bat early this season for a session on a pretty flat one at Gloucestershire and was a little surprised that he didn't look the class above that you'd expect for an England player in div 2. Starting to look inevitable he won't be in the test side much longer, hopefully this batting is the blip rather than last season's runs!
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #491 on: July 28, 2017, 07:52:40 AM »

Westley reminded me of Trott a little bit, looking to leave outside off stump and then work anything straight to leg, make the bowlers bowl at you. Think he just lost his head after the break a little, I was impressed with what I saw. Like others have said we don't know much about Malan, that was a ripper of a ball to get on debut.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #492 on: July 28, 2017, 07:56:00 AM »

I'm a durham fan so I've seen quite a bit of Keaton, and to be honest it shocked me when he first got picked. He had s toe in the scrap heap then all of a sudden he had a cracking season and got fast tracked into the England side overtaking your lads like Stoneman who had been scoring over 1000 every season. He's never struck me as someone who was made for international cricket but probably would've been a very steady player for us in Div 2 if he had the chance.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #493 on: July 28, 2017, 08:01:53 AM »

Couldn't agree more, Woakes nowadays is a top quality cricketer in all regards and looked like a brilliant Test match bowler last summer - a real miss. Very interested to see how Roland-Jones goes in this match, I've got a nagging feeling he'll do well. Can't help but feel that a look at a current England Test XI doesn't exactly strike fear into the hearts of oppositions - no-one apart from bog standard Division 2 bowlers are scared by the prospect of bowling to Keaton Jennings and, likewise, no-one is scared of facing someone like Liam Dawson.
Yes
Against a poor Sri Lanka team and at times a poor Pakistan what did he do in Asia in the winter.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #494 on: July 28, 2017, 08:04:25 AM »

Ah.... Here we go again.
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