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[Vitas Cricket]

Yes, zero points.

We lost this weekend; we got zero (0) points. Our opponent won, they got 6 points. Nobody complains. All that matters is winning and everything else is ignored. You score a 50, you get a small trophy regardless of win/loss. You take 5 wickets, you get a small trophy regardless of win/loss. Individual players' contributions show up in the stats charts. No fuss, no muss.

How do you separate teams who finish the season on the same number of points? I imagine this happens a lot when multiples of 6 are the only numbers teams can end up with.

To be honest i cannot see it catching on, I for one would want nothing to do with the game if once its clear you cannot win the only incentive is to throw the bat and be out as quickly as possible (maybe once in a career it comes off and you win miraculously)

[InternalTraining]

How do you separate teams who finish the season on the same number of points? I imagine this happens a lot when multiples of 6 are the only numbers teams can end up with.

To be honest i cannot see it catching on, I for one would want nothing to do with the game if once its clear you cannot win the only incentive is to throw the bat and be out as quickly as possible (maybe once in a career it comes off and you win miraculously)

Point system is used to determine "play-off" teams and Championship is decided in the "play-offs". Top two team automatically qualify for the play-offs or semi-finals. The next 4 teams play the quarter-finals to qualify for the semis. Quarter-final and semi-final matches are knock-out or elimination rounds.

I have been playing for 6/7 years and that is the system I know and accept. There is hardly ever an issue with sportsmanship. I, for one, have never witnessed anyone deliberately throwing the game. We won the last match by the skin of our teeth - we posted a 250+ in 40 over; the other side was losing wickets fast but their captain scored a huge 144 and got caught out in the last over. He literally climbed a mountain to get his (faltering) team where he did. They lost by 4 runs but won our respect.

[WalkingWicket37]

We won the last match by the skin of our teeth - we posted a 250+ in 40 over; the other side was losing wickets fast but their captain scored a huge 144 and got caught out in the last over. He literally climbed a mountain to get his (faltering) team where he did. They lost by 4 runs but won our respect.

He should have won a few bonus points too, really... 

[InternalTraining]

Hahahahahahhaha

[InternalTraining]

Motivation (for us) is just the game itself and not the accolades. We accept there is no "organizational" cricket infrastructure here. No grounds are funded by the state or ICC. The grounds are built and maintained by volunteers...teams are funded privately by cricket fans and cricketers. We are just glad that we get the opportunity to play in warm weather, that is a reward in itself.

[smilley792]

I think we should agree to disagree. Many people want different things from the game, and because there are so many variables. Everybody won't be happy with what's given.
(and it's ultimately why it's a dying game).


Me personally, I'll end up retiring if I have to sit through another 50 overs where the oppo refuse to chase 200 and just waste my Saturday afternoon being boring.

I'll also retire if they stop teas!

[WalkingWicket37]

I think we should agree to disagree. Many people want different things from the game, and because there are so many variables. Everybody won't be happy with what's given.
(and it's ultimately why it's a dying game).


Me personally, I'll end up retiring if I have to sit through another 50 overs where the oppo refuse to chase 200 and just waste my Saturday afternoon being boring.

I'll also retire if they stop teas!

I agree with this 100%

Teas are the highlight of some games (closely followed by a decent shower some weeks).

[Vitas Cricket]

Point system is used to determine "play-off" teams and Championship is decided in the "play-offs". Top two team automatically qualify for the play-offs or semi-finals. The next 4 teams play the quarter-finals to qualify for the semis. Quarter-final and semi-final matches are knock-out or elimination rounds.

I have been playing for 6/7 years and that is the system I know and accept. There is hardly ever an issue with sportsmanship. I, for one, have never witnessed anyone deliberately throwing the game. We won the last match by the skin of our teeth - we posted a 250+ in 40 over; the other side was losing wickets fast but their captain scored a huge 144 and got caught out in the last over. He literally climbed a mountain to get his (faltering) team where he did. They lost by 4 runs but won our respect.

What happens with relegation? Let's say there are 2 relegation sports and 3 clubs don't win a game all season and all have 0 points?

[InternalTraining]

What happens with relegation? Let's say there are 2 relegation sports and 3 clubs don't win a game all season and all have 0 points?

Every year, two teams go up a division and two teams comes down a division - the top two move up and bottom two (based on points) go down a division. Our league has 4 divisions. Each club that plays in the league has 2 or more teams playing in different divisions. Teams are allowed to move players in and out of teams for the first game of the league; after that, teams are fixed and people play in their team and division for rest of the season.

[WalkingWicket37]

Every year, two teams go up a division and two teams comes down a division - the top two move up and bottom two (based on points) go down a division. Our league has 4 divisions. Each club that plays in the league has 2 or more teams playing in different divisions. Teams are allowed to move players in and out of teams for the first game of the league; after that, teams are fixed and people play in their team and division for rest of the season.

What happens if 3 teams are on 0 points?
Alphabetical order?
Flip a coin?
Rock, Paper, Scissors?

[InternalTraining]

What happens if 3 teams are on 0 points?
Alphabetical order?
Flip a coin?
Rock, Paper, Scissors?

Run rate is the determinant when points are tied.

[Mortimer]

brilliant !
the only thing against 'the spirit of cricket' here is the points system and the lack of a final.

There should not be a final to determine who are league champions. Results over the whole season determine that.

[LBWCandidate]

Yes, zero points.

We lost this weekend; we got zero (0) points. Our opponent won, they got 6 points. Nobody complains. All that matters is winning and everything else is ignored. You score a 50, you get a small trophy regardless of win/loss. You take 5 wickets, you get a small trophy regardless of win/loss. Individual players' contributions show up in the stats charts. No fuss, no muss.

We play in a similar league. Winning team gets 4 points, losing team nothing. Washed out games, points are shared. If there is tie based on points, NRR is looked at.
5 wicket hauls and 100's get trophies at end of the season as well.
No bonus points. 

[Biggie Smalls]

Every year, two teams go up a division and two teams comes down a division - the top two move up and bottom two (based on points) go down a division. Our league has 4 divisions. Each club that plays in the league has 2 or more teams playing in different divisions. Teams are allowed to move players in and out of teams for the first game of the league; after that, teams are fixed and people play in their team and division for rest of the season.

Now i understand the problem , and the reason your comps need such convoluted bonus points systems.  Aussie grade structure seems waaaaay better to me . There are multiple grades . No promotion and relegation of teams . 3rd grade in 2016 still plays 3rd grade in 2017.... because it's 3rd grade ! Each player is chosen in a grade , their performance dictactes if they , as individuals,  are 'promoted' or 'relegated' into a higher or lower grade . Sure , team composition may change often (even on a fortnightly basis) , and if you , or others around you , have an inconsistent season you may play in a few grades . But so what ? It makes it challenging , you are playing for your spot aswell as playing for your team and club . You also get to potentially play with more people at your club too . I think its infinitely better , and the fact you only need to find the semifinalists via the comp points means you can avoid all these unnecessary shenanigans.   

[edge]

Now i understand the problem , and the reason your comps need such convoluted bonus points systems.  Aussie grade structure seems waaaaay better to me . There are multiple grades . No promotion and relegation of teams . 3rd grade in 2016 still plays 3rd grade in 2017.... because it's 3rd grade ! Each player is chosen in a grade , their performance dictactes if they , as individuals,  are 'promoted' or 'relegated' into a higher or lower grade . Sure , team composition may change often (even on a fortnightly basis) , and if you , or others around you , have an inconsistent season you may play in a few grades . But so what ? It makes it challenging , you are playing for your spot aswell as playing for your team and club . You also get to potentially play with more people at your club too . I think its infinitely better , and the fact you only need to find the semifinalists via the comp points means you can avoid all these unnecessary shenanigans.

So what happens if you're consistently the best or worst team in a grade? You just keep getting easy wins/getting stuffed year after year? Or even if you're mid-table, what are your ambitions for each season. No promotion/relegation surely makes it very reliant on the majority of teams being closely matched for there to be much point in it all.