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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2580 on: December 28, 2017, 05:59:41 AM »

No Starc and Jackson Bird in to deliver 0-100 odd at 78 mph...

Makes massive difference
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« Reply #2581 on: December 28, 2017, 06:43:12 AM »

Was Stuart broad out?? Can’t see Kwaja admitting he shelled it.

Umpiring has been a bit poor this series. Warner called back from a no ball in this test but the same wasn’t done for I think it was Malan in the 2nd test, Broad soft signal given out from 70m away (which I assume was done on the gentleman’s rule that he claimed the catch and must be an honest chap).

Just also thinking of they check no balls now on dismissal only why don’t they check hotspot and Vince got an inside edge and isn’t given the same opportunity of technology as Warner for example
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« Reply #2582 on: December 28, 2017, 07:11:15 AM »

No Starc and Jackson Bird in to deliver 0-100 odd at 78 mph...

Makes massive difference

Jackson Bird. Australian equivalent of Woakes. Nowhere near the best in the country.
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« Reply #2583 on: December 28, 2017, 08:18:33 AM »

Was Stuart broad out?? Can’t see Kwaja admitting he shelled it.

Umpiring has been a bit poor this series. Warner called back from a no ball in this test but the same wasn’t done for I think it was Malan in the 2nd test, Broad soft signal given out from 70m away (which I assume was done on the gentleman’s rule that he claimed the catch and must be an honest chap).

Just also thinking of they check no balls now on dismissal only why don’t they check hotspot and Vince got an inside edge and isn’t given the same opportunity of technology as Warner for example

I think they either use the technology all the time or not at all.

The Khawaja catch was a hard one. It look to pop out and the his hand went back under the ball before it touched the ground... Can’t see what happened to it when he fell on top of it.

Vince was given the opportunity to review but he chose not to, as did Malan which he smashed the ball but chose not to review... Strange
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« Reply #2584 on: December 28, 2017, 08:19:21 AM »

Nice to see chef get some confidence going forward but doesn’t mean much after series is lost other than to set him up hopefully for the next few series as whatever his form there is still no other opener at his level as we have struggled to find a partner for years let alone a partner and replacement

This may be sacrilege but I can no longer put root in the same bracket as smith kholi and Williamson, too many pretty 50’s
The others convert and step up when it matters he very rarely seems to go big and dominate a game

Broad is broad will do nothing at all then get on a roll and steam roller a side for nothing but it won’t happen every game you have to accept it or drop him like India had with sewag

Mo I like as a batsmen but he has never been and will never be a front line spinner

Plus until the likes of Darren Stevens stop getting help from pitches in cc we will never produce proper fast bowlers or decent spinners as all you need is to be accurate at 75 mph to get 60-70 wickets a year in cc
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« Reply #2585 on: December 28, 2017, 09:22:14 AM »

Nice to see chef get some confidence going forward but doesn’t mean much after series is lost other than to set him up hopefully for the next few series as whatever his form there is still no other opener at his level as we have struggled to find a partner for years let alone a partner and replacement

This may be sacrilege but I can no longer put root in the same bracket as smith kholi and Williamson, too many pretty 50’s
The others convert and step up when it matters he very rarely seems to go big and dominate a game

Broad is broad will do nothing at all then get on a roll and steam roller a side for nothing but it won’t happen every game you have to accept it or drop him like India had with sewag

Mo I like as a batsmen but he has never been and will never be a front line spinner

Plus until the likes of Darren Stevens stop getting help from pitches in cc we will never produce proper fast bowlers or decent spinners as all you need is to be accurate at 75 mph to get 60-70 wickets a year in cc

Stop talking sense man, it's clear that the main problem is these BLOODY BIG BATS!
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« Reply #2586 on: December 28, 2017, 09:25:02 AM »

Stop talking sense man, it's clear that the main problem is these BLOODY BIG BATS!

Sorry I’ll go back into my corner and think about what I’ve done
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« Reply #2587 on: December 28, 2017, 09:42:41 AM »

Jackson Bird. Australian equivalent of Woakes. Nowhere near the best in the country.

Maybe like Woakes he is a good team man.
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« Reply #2588 on: December 28, 2017, 09:47:30 AM »

Sorry I’ll go back into my corner and think about what I’ve done

Good lad.

I do agree with a lot of what you said though, except that I think the knock from Cook does mean quite a lot. I'd much rather lose these Ashes 3-1, 3-2 or even 4-1/4-0 than a 5-0 whitewash just to cheapen the victory a bit for our Aussie friends. Plus I think it will galvanise not only the team but also Cook's own self belief that he's still up to this test cricket lark, he admitted in an interview after today's play that he's had doubts all series:

 "Last night it ranked right up there, because it was a kind of feeling like last-chance saloon. When you're in those positions and you dig yourself out, it makes you proud.

"Those doubts are always there and they've been beating me up for four or five weeks. But I know I've done it before."

 "Last night it was relief. Today I was quite proud that I came back, got in again and dug deep to get a big one. When you get a chance to get in on a flat wicket, you want to make it a big one."

"Things haven't really changed for me. I try to score runs every time I bat for England,"
"So far the series hasn't gone that well but today is a good day. I'm not sure I'm allowed to say it, but I will have a beer tonight."

Sounds to me like he's really been doubting himself but might just have got his mojo back, hopefully this keeps him hungry for more, as I still think he's got a lot of runs left in him.
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« Reply #2589 on: December 28, 2017, 09:54:29 AM »

Trust me it doesn’t cheapen the victory.... We still won the ashes 😉😜
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« Reply #2590 on: December 28, 2017, 10:05:57 AM »

Trust me it doesn’t cheapen the victory.... We still won the ashes 😉😜

But only 5-0 will end careers like we were promised would happen
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« Reply #2591 on: December 28, 2017, 10:17:22 AM »

But only 5-0 will end careers like we were promised would happen

I hope they keep the same team for the next few years lol
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« Reply #2592 on: December 28, 2017, 10:19:48 AM »

Trust me it doesn’t cheapen the victory.... We still won the ashes 😉😜

Surely it does? When we beat you at home last time, I felt it was cheapened by the losses (especially the last test where I felt we were complacent "job already done" kinda mentality) and I know you Aussies love keeping your foot on our throats when you have us down so basically I don't believe you ;) :D
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« Reply #2593 on: December 28, 2017, 10:27:12 AM »

I’d rather 3-2 than 5-0 so agree it means something but if it was that easy to go out and score easily in Australia everyone would do it

We have been average but you have to give credit convicts bowlers just blew us away in first 3 tests on quick wickets and smith proved why he is one of worlds best

If we win this I very much doubt the next pitch will be slow and low
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2594 on: December 28, 2017, 10:28:40 AM »

In the NFL they use the term Garbage Time.

They might as well rest Hazelwood, Smith, Cummins and Lyon in Sydney. I doubt Ill bother watching much more from here on. Im starting to think about the tour of SA in March. Id say the selectors are too.

Reckon Chadd Sayers will go?
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