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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2595 on: December 28, 2017, 11:12:13 AM »
Love the way you Aussies are trying to poo-poo the importance of this test match- fact is the Aussies are desperate to win 5 zip! If the likes of Broad,Cook and Root had turned up when it really mattered,like Smith and Stark did,this series would have been a lot closer!
The slowness of the pitch and no Stark has no doubt helped Cook. Still,he's shown he still has the appetite for big runs-hope he keeps going for a while yet!
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« Reply #2596 on: December 28, 2017, 09:51:57 PM »
Penny for Mitch Starc's thoughts right about now? He had a big time charlie when James Anderson proclaimed the Australian cupboard was bare. Low and behold without one of the their big three(and granted Cummins had Delhi belly on day 2), Bird looks like a second division dobber. With Pattinson probably unlikely to play much due to several spine injuries and Coulter-Nile even more fragile, Cricket Australia might need to manage Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins as only Test match bowlers.
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« Reply #2597 on: December 28, 2017, 10:23:21 PM »
Quite a few people posted pre ashes if the Aussie bowlers stayed fit we would struggle. They did for 3 matches and that was enough to seal the ashes.

It's a case of what might have been for England I'm afraid. This pitch is not as quick as the others also, seems more like English pace and bounce.

No complaints when Australia come over here in 2019 we would expect pitches to suit our bowlers.

As Soulman points out in the SA v India matches, home teams produce home pitches, it gets harder to win away.

India have not played an away test match series for 12 months, how that works I've  no idea  :)
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2598 on: December 28, 2017, 10:26:05 PM »
Bird didn't set alight Notts during his stay with them. I think  any 4 man attack in test cricket is an accident waiting to happen. Particularly when 3 guys are trying to bowl 90+. It's why County cricket is full of dobbers, you simply can't maintain that pace over an extended period of time without a 4th seamer. The role of Watto bowling 75mph dobbers was overlooked in 2013/14 in helping Johnson bowl at full pelt.  England have gone down the route of a genuine 4 man attack to preserve their bowling stocks.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2599 on: December 28, 2017, 11:32:24 PM »
Well batted jimmy! First ball of the day!

Cook carries bat for 244*
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2600 on: December 28, 2017, 11:35:10 PM »
Good to hear some straight talking by Collingwood on Moeen pre match
We need a bit more frankness from the coaches and team to move forward
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2601 on: December 28, 2017, 11:36:23 PM »
Lucky for Cook because the others looked ordinary. Broads innings was was the luckiest I’ve seen. Exactly what England hasn’t had this series. Vince and Malan shouldn’t have been out but fate was in their own hands and they chose not to use it.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2602 on: December 29, 2017, 12:12:17 AM »
What the hell was that review about? ???
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2603 on: December 29, 2017, 12:15:04 AM »
There has been some poor choice of reviews this series from both teams
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2604 on: December 29, 2017, 12:24:52 AM »
Umpires having a chat with Broad for his wayward throws scuffing up the ball? I'd be getting a talking to every game if they'd seen how bad my arm is  ;)
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2605 on: December 29, 2017, 12:33:40 AM »
Well left by Broad to give Warner 3 runs instead of a single
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2606 on: December 29, 2017, 12:34:43 AM »
I don't see what the issue is, it's your ball so you can do what you like with it so long as it's within the rules. It's not as if they're carving huge grooves into the ball.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2607 on: December 29, 2017, 12:35:52 AM »
Hope smith didnt sleep much last night. Dropped an unlikey aussie lead.  :(

Pretty sure aussies were doing the same with the ball.....
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2608 on: December 29, 2017, 01:06:51 AM »
Bancroft is out of his depth as a test match opener. During the first innings I was thinking I couldnt remember watching a worse Aus opener - although they have had some good ones to be fair. And 2nd innings has done nothing to change my mind. He is neither aggresive - Slater, Hayden, Warner or methodical - Langer, Rogers style

He will be best remembered for giggling in a press conference. Renshaw is a much better long term option for Aus
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2609 on: December 29, 2017, 01:18:36 AM »
Have England ended the Test careers of Bancroft and Khawaja?
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