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[tate035]

So this is what actually happened? I didn't realise they had found any witnesses to corroborate this "defence"

Nobody knows for sure other than those involved so I will be keep my powder dry before i start criticising anyone..

The main point for me is that there are witnesses and hopefully they will come forward and put an end to this sorry mess...

[Woodyspin]

Anyone who disagrees can fight me.

I'll fight you not to have Ballance at 3. I'll fight anyone so it doesnt happen.

[golders]

Ditto on Ballance,has had to many chances and nothing has changed!

[GoodLeave]

I'll fight you not to have Ballance at 3. I'll fight anyone so it doesnt happen.

Oh, I absolutely agree. But it's Ballance or James "C. 1st Slip" Vince.

I'd rather see Ballance have all 3 stumps splattered again than see Vince C. 1st Slip again. Purely for entertainment value.

But if you still want that fight...

[Alvaro]

To be fair to Vince he was mainly caught at 2nd slip.

[Biggie Smalls]

@GoodLeave .... I'll fight you . No way finch should be in instead of khawaja. Name me something good finch has done in first class cricket recently ?

[petehosk]

@GoodLeave

England XI:

Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root (C)
Malan/Ballance
Stokes
Bairstow (WK and VC?)
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson

That is more likely to be the XI. But more than the team/order, I have removed the "VC" from Stokes!
As much as I think he is a quality player, he is showing that he is not fit to be VC!

[manno]

If youve included stokes then its more of a christmas wish list than starting XI.

[GoodLeave]

@GoodLeave .... I'll fight you . No way finch should be in instead of khawaja. Name me something good finch has done in first class cricket recently ?

I've chosen Finch on current form. (Personally) I think form is transferable, so runs in ODI's should be considered "Form".

I think the team is pretty solid. Just choose any two of the four: Khawaja, Maxwell, Finch, Cartwright.

No way I'm fighting you though, why would anyone offer to fight a bloke who's nickname is "Biggie Smalls"!?

[GoodLeave]

@GoodLeave

England XI:

Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root (C)
Malan/Ballance
Stokes
Bairstow (WK and VC?)
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson

That is more likely to be the XI. But more than the team/order, I have removed the "VC" from Stokes!
As much as I think he is a quality player, he is showing that he is not fit to be VC!

Can see your thinking Pete, I'm just not sold on Vince at 3 or 5. I think the only thing he's got going for him at the minute is that he's right handed. And I'm right handed, so I should stand as much chance.

Manno, you're right. I've put him in the team because I think it'll be a fine and a telling off. I don't agree with it, but I also don't agree with not walking. When there's money on the line, morals seem to go missing.

[ppccopener]

Can see your thinking Pete, I'm just not sold on Vince at 3 or 5. I think the only thing he's got going for him at the minute is that he's right handed. And I'm right handed, so I should stand as much chance.

Manno, you're right. I've put him in the team because I think it'll be a fine and a telling off. I don't agree with it, but I also don't agree with not walking. When there's money on the line, morals seem to go missing.

I think Pete is pretty close to the team @GoodLeave , I think Vince  is nailed on at 3 because Root does not want to bat there, Ballance is a number 5. could be wrong but Vince bats 3 or maybe 4 for Hampshire and opens sometimes in the shorter format.

with Root at 4 Malan is the player in position and has done ok so he stays in the team at 5 or 6.

But Stokes I can't see being there, he is odds on to miss the whole trip while the case hangs over him.
We then need another batsman instead of Stokes or another bowler-either way it's not as strong a tam by miles.

Can't help thinking someone like Samit Patel would fit in place such a shame he did not become a fully fledged test player.

[Biggie Smalls]

I've chosen Finch on current form. (Personally) I think form is transferable, so runs in ODI's should be considered "Form".

I think the team is pretty solid. Just choose any two of the four: Khawaja, Maxwell, Finch, Cartwright.

No way I'm fighting you though, why would anyone offer to fight a bloke who's nickname is "Biggie Smalls"!?

I see your thinking and i used to be tempted by that too... but finch's t20/odi form has never really transferred over before so i think its too risky . Maxwell and cartright have at least established solid first class stats , so id go with one of them .

[brokenbat]

The police are still appealing for witnesses,specifically the two men who were allegedly targeted with homophobic abuse- they haven't come forward yet:


https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/sep/29/xx

Apparently the guy who got punched is an Army vet!

[northernboy1987]

England Lions squad for Australia : Dom Bess (Somerset), Joe Clarke (Worcestershire), Paul Coughlin (Nottinghamshire), Alex Davies (Lancashire), Ben Duckett (Northamptonshire), George Garton (Sussex), Nick Gubbins (Middlesex), Tom Helm (Middlesex), Keaton Jennings (Lancashire), Dan Lawrence (Essex), Jack Leach (Somerset), Liam Livingstone (Lancashire), Saqib Mahmood (Lancashire), Jamie Porter (Essex), Amar Virdi (Surrey), Tom Westley (Essex), Mark Wood (Durham).

[Buzz]

No room for Sam Northeast, Rory Burns, Tom or Sam Curran.
There must be some serious talent in English cricket right now if those guys don't get picked.