Topic: Ashes 2017-18 (Read 407170 times)

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #360 on:** September 29, 2017, 06:56:18 PM »

First odi vs aus... who opens! Bairstow and Roy or does hales come back? (Take the incident out of the equation)

For me Roy has earns his spot and bairstow ha step hundreds in 4 games simple

Manormanic · « **Reply #361 on:** September 29, 2017, 06:58:14 PM »

Tough but...does Hales come back for someone other than those two?

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #362 on:** September 29, 2017, 08:07:30 PM »

Quote from: Manormanic on September 29, 2017, 06:58:14 PM

Tough but...does Hales come back for someone other than those two?

Who opens?

Manormanic · « **Reply #363 on:** September 29, 2017, 09:24:59 PM »

Quote from: alexhilly1492 on September 29, 2017, 08:07:30 PM

Who opens?

Tricky - depends where Stokes is. If he is in; Roy, Hales, Root, YJB, Stokes, Buttler or Morgan. If out, replace or with and?

Sam · « **Reply #364 on:** September 29, 2017, 09:39:31 PM »

Quote from: alexhilly1492 on September 29, 2017, 06:56:18 PM

First odi vs aus... who opens! Bairstow and Roy or does hales come back? (Take the incident out of the equation)

For me Roy has earns his spot and bairstow ha step hundreds in 4 games simple

Root (and Stokes if he goes) will be rested at some point this winter. Probably can't have them on the other side of the world away from home for nearly 6 months straight.

Big Mac · « **Reply #365 on:** September 29, 2017, 10:33:15 PM »

Quote from: tate035 on September 29, 2017, 03:45:07 PM

Lol... Unfortunately in the REAL WORLD not everything is defined by necessary, normal or desirable... Perhaps you should speak to Special Forces, anti terrorism squad's etc etc...

If only life was as simple as behaving in the manner or way the dictionary describes the word...

That's literally what the word means. The last time I checked, anti-terror officers don't define the English language. Something can be excessive, or it can be necessary, but not both.

joeljonno · « **Reply #366 on:** September 30, 2017, 07:56:46 AM »

So I saw the vid the other day, then saw the KP Facebook post.

Is that Hales putting the boot in too?

Whilst many would say �that�s what I would do�, unfortunately for me he has gone too far.

I think they both should be banned from england and have their contracts terminated. There is no excuse for this sort of action, especially as someone who is a role model of the calibre of England vice-captain.

Unless they put a massive push on Stokes being apologetic etc. and remorseful I just cannot see how they can be on the plane to Aus.

Manormanic · « **Reply #367 on:** September 30, 2017, 08:22:26 AM »

Quote from: joeljonno on September 30, 2017, 07:56:46 AM

There is no excuse for this sort of action, especially as someone who is a role model of the calibre of England vice-captain.

I have until now stayed clear of this, and would like to keep doing so, but this I had to challenge. If Stokes' defence is that he was protecting others from homophobic abuse from an idiot wielding a bottle as a weapon, do you really think his internal thought process should have been "blimey, I know that lad is about to have his nose sliced off, but I wouldn't want to bring von Strauss and the ECB chappies into disrepute like. I'll just watch him bleed"?

Calzehbhoy · « **Reply #368 on:** September 30, 2017, 08:29:13 AM »

What is this obsession with Pro Sportspeople being 'Role Models'? On the pitch maybe kids want to emulate them but if you can't educate your kids that they shouldn't drink drive/get in fights then you've failed as a parent as you should be their Role Model!!!!

Northern monkey · « **Reply #369 on:** September 30, 2017, 08:46:04 AM »

Quote from: Manormanic on September 30, 2017, 08:22:26 AM

I have until now stayed clear of this, and would like to keep doing so, but this I had to challenge. If Stokes' defence is that he was protecting others from homophobic abuse from an idiot wielding a bottle as a weapon, do you really think his internal thought process should have been "blimey, I know that lad is about to have his nose sliced off, but I wouldn't want to bring von Strauss and the ECB chappies into disrepute like. I'll just watch him bleed"?

But it's ok for stokes to punch a bloke backing away from him?
Who goes down pretty hard onto a road.!

They all look complete idiots and deserve to be judged on their unacceptable actions

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #370 on:** September 30, 2017, 08:59:03 AM »

Quote from: Northern monkey on September 30, 2017, 08:46:04 AM

But it's ok for stokes to punch a bloke backing away from him?
Who goes down pretty hard onto a road.!

They all look complete idiots and deserve to be judged on their unacceptable actions

If there's a case to be anwsered that'will be a key factor it's difficult to claim you are protecting others you felt threaten or self defence when the other guys are backing off.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #371 on:** September 30, 2017, 09:08:33 AM »

Quote from: Northern monkey on September 30, 2017, 08:46:04 AM

But it's ok for stokes to punch a bloke backing away from him?
Who goes down pretty hard onto a road.!

They all look complete idiots and deserve to be judged on their unacceptable actions

If there's a case to be anwsered there's the key its difficult to provide a defence of protecting your friends /felt threatened /self defence if others can provide evidence that they were backing off

golders · « **Reply #372 on:** September 30, 2017, 09:16:49 AM »

The police are still appealing for witnesses,specifically the two men who were allegedly targeted with homophobic abuse- they haven't come forward yet:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/sep/29/xx

Number4 · « **Reply #373 on:** September 30, 2017, 10:10:46 AM »

Quote from: Manormanic on September 30, 2017, 08:22:26 AM

I have until now stayed clear of this, and would like to keep doing so, but this I had to challenge. If Stokes' defence is that he was protecting others from homophobic abuse from an idiot wielding a bottle as a weapon, do you really think his internal thought process should have been "blimey, I know that lad is about to have his nose sliced off, but I wouldn't want to bring von Strauss and the ECB chappies into disrepute like. I'll just watch him bleed"?

So this is what actually happened? I didn't realise they had found any witnesses to corroborate this "defence"

GoodLeave · « **Reply #374 on:** September 30, 2017, 10:19:18 AM »

1st Ashes Test - The Gabba, Brisbane. 23 - 27 November 2017

Australia XI:

Renshaw
Warner (VC)
Smith (C)
Handscomb
Maxwell
Finch
Wade (WK)
Starc
Cummins
Hazelwood
Lyon

England XI:

Cook
Stoneman
Ballance
Root (C)
Malan
Stokes (VC)
Bairstow (WK)
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson

Anyone who disagrees can fight me.

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