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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #660 on: November 07, 2017, 10:09:08 AM »

Outside bet on Tom Curran to get a call up?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #661 on: November 07, 2017, 10:11:50 AM »

Has anyone read the Pominshambles article on the BBC sport page, it reveals the secret of Mitchell Johnsons spectacular bowling was humming songs from frozen to block out the barmy army.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #662 on: November 07, 2017, 10:57:51 AM »

I thought Plunkett wasn't in the lions because of the t20 tournament he is waiting to play in? I would play Wood if they are going to use him as an impact bowler but if he's going to be required to bowl more than 5 overs in a spell Plunkett is the man there really isn't many more options with international experience etc. Tom Curran is not a bad shout but to similar to other bowlers in the squad.
Alot of people writing England off but I still think as it stands both sides are fairly similar they have a more potent attack but I think we have the stronger batsmen. Shaping up to be a good series.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #663 on: November 07, 2017, 11:00:21 AM »

With Finn out, surely they will call up Plunkett. One of the few bowlers we have who can 'hurry up' the Aussie batsmen. He can also add valuable runs down the order and has substantial experience.

Ball sounds like he has found the right length straight away, and as he can bowl in the upper 80's (mph), more pace than most (fit) England options. Irrespective of the quality of the opposition, bowling in the right place is a huge positive.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #664 on: November 07, 2017, 11:02:57 AM »

Impressive stuff but aren't they pretty much all tailenders (his victimsover the two hat tricks have a combined average of around 60), something England aren't like to have more than a couple of in their 11?

Yes, I guess, but 35 overs at 2.5 runs per over is an excellent performance for the match. He has dominated the first two Shield games of the season against full strength sides.

You will not get an idea of the English teams preparation from the trial games against teenage, fringe first class players. Frankly, I'd love to see guys like Mark Stoneman play well and make a name for themselves but the trial games are pathetic.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #665 on: November 07, 2017, 11:07:02 AM »

I thought Plunkett wasn't in the lions because of the t20 tournament he is waiting to play in? I would play Wood if they are going to use him as an impact bowler but if he's going to be required to bowl more than 5 overs in a spell Plunkett is the man there really isn't many more options with international experience etc. Tom Curran is not a bad shout but to similar to other bowlers in the squad.
Alot of people writing England off but I still think as it stands both sides are fairly similar they have a more potent attack but I think we have the stronger batsmen. Shaping up to be a good series.

Wood has been wrongly used by England
 if selected  he is your bang it in bowler no more than 5 over spells.
But it should be Plunkett the fittest of all the bowlers does nothing wrong  when he plays but is seen by the England camp as a one day specialist.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #666 on: November 07, 2017, 11:19:14 AM »

Yes, I guess, but 35 overs at 2.5 runs per over is an excellent performance for the match. He has dominated the first two Shield games of the season against full strength sides.

You will not get an idea of the English teams preparation from the trial games against teenage, fringe first class players. Frankly, I'd love to see guys like Mark Stoneman play well and make a name for themselves but the trial games are pathetic.

I agree, the warm up games offered to touring sides has pretty much become a race to the bottom in recent time, which benifits nobody.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #667 on: November 07, 2017, 11:23:20 AM »

I agree, the warm up games offered to touring sides has pretty much become a race to the bottom in recent time, which benifits nobody.

I agree ....all test nations are guilty and should be embarrassed.  If i were ecb i would tried to have eng play lions in a 3 or 4 day warm up game. Two birds with one stone .
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #668 on: November 07, 2017, 11:28:00 AM »

I agree ....all test nations are guilty and should be embarrassed.  If i were ecb i would tried to have eng play lions in a 3 or 4 day warm up game. Two birds with one stone .

Not to mention embarrassing when the lions win, or rig the sides so it’s england bowlers vs England batters and lions vs lions
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #669 on: November 07, 2017, 11:50:39 AM »

Team is out for the next warmup:
Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root
Malan
YJB
Woakes
Overton
Ball
Crane
Anderson

Looks like that gives us a pretty good idea of the test side then, Ali and Broad in for Crane and one of Overton/Ball. Don't think Vince will last the series tbh!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #670 on: November 07, 2017, 12:02:31 PM »

This tour feels like a trainwreck and it hasn't even started
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #671 on: November 07, 2017, 12:09:20 PM »

Get Stokes on the bloody plane.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #672 on: November 07, 2017, 12:09:50 PM »

He'll punch the engine and it'll crash
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #673 on: November 07, 2017, 12:10:33 PM »

This tour feels like a trainwreck and it hasn't even started

This is how every Ashes tour went between 1994 and 2007. I've been having Joey Benjamin flashbacks...
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #674 on: November 07, 2017, 12:15:39 PM »

Feel really sorry for Steve Finn having to return home with a torn knee cartilage. Be interesting to see who, if anyone, gets called in as replacement, given England already have Ball and Overton as well as Broad and Anderson. Finn's injury may be a factor in any decisions over Ben Stokes, although I don't think he will play any tests, but will be included in the white ball cricket, pending any decisions / outcomes on his conduct in Brizzle.   
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