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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #705 on: November 09, 2017, 05:48:15 AM »
Oh dear, Jake Ball off injured... next please! Likely to be a harder decision this time too, probably safe to assume that Plunkett is out so Tom Helm next in line?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #706 on: November 09, 2017, 06:40:34 AM »
If he wasn’t already....Chris Woakes just became crucial to us competing on this tour
Mason crane seems very highly rated, could we play two spinners in most of the tests? Looking more possible, Anderson broad and Woakes cannot be bowled into the ground-we have lost if they do
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #707 on: November 09, 2017, 08:51:23 AM »
Quote from: ppccopener on November 09, 2017, 06:40:34 AM
If he wasn’t already....Chris Woakes just became crucial to us competing on this tour
Mason crane seems very highly rated, could we play two spinners in most of the tests? Looking more possible, Anderson broad and Woakes cannot be bowled into the ground-we have lost if they do

I like the look of Crane but he's a typical young leggie I think, he'll take some wickets but he'll go for some runs too, might be a bit too much of a luxury at the moment.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #708 on: November 09, 2017, 09:11:52 AM »
I think I might cry
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #709 on: November 09, 2017, 09:22:19 AM »
Quote from: rickjames on November 09, 2017, 09:11:52 AM
I think I might cry

Don't cry, Mason Crane just bowled a maiden, he's gonna save us all
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #710 on: November 09, 2017, 09:23:35 AM »
Hang in there Rick

For those old enough on the forum may remember Martin Johnson in the independent on tour back in the eighties writing

There’s only 3 things wrong with the England team, they can’t bowl, they can’t bat and they can’t field.

We won that test series in Oz.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #711 on: November 09, 2017, 09:25:04 AM »
Why am I sad about a bloke with a test bowling average of 114 being injured.

Might just money on 5-0
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #712 on: November 09, 2017, 09:31:56 AM »
Quote from: ppccopener on November 09, 2017, 06:40:34 AM
If he wasn’t already....Chris Woakes just became crucial to us competing on this tour
Mason crane seems very highly rated, could we play two spinners in most of the tests? Looking more possible, Anderson broad and Woakes cannot be bowled into the ground-we have lost if they do

If England play two spinners. in Aus  there's no way they will take   20 wickets  needed to win also only one test venue is known to  spin.
Without doubt Woakes is crucial  but can he  take wickets / win matches for England away from the UK.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #713 on: November 09, 2017, 09:41:52 AM »
Seniorplayer - if only one venue in Australia spins, which one do you mean?

Gabba, where Warne said was his favourite place to bowl
Adelaide, where Swann bowled out Oz in 2010
Or Sydney, just to swallow the truism?

Play your best bowlers from what you've got left, frankly.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #714 on: November 09, 2017, 09:47:13 AM »
Quote from: Seniorplayer on November 09, 2017, 09:31:56 AM
If England play two spinners. in Aus  there's no way they will take   20 wickets  needed to win also only one test venue is known to  spin.
Without doubt Woakes is crucial  but can he  take wickets / win matches for England away from the UK.

Your back to the constant discussion of do you play your best bowlers or a lesser bowler because of the pitch...it’s flawed thinking
We have had spinners do very well out there, it’s hot the pitch will bake

Ps I was in Worcester on Saturday it’s very nice, meet you for a pint next time
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #715 on: November 09, 2017, 11:12:22 AM »
Quote from: ppccopener on November 09, 2017, 09:23:35 AM
There’s only 3 things wrong with the England team, they can’t bowl, they can’t bat and they can’t field.

Ah the brilliance of his retraction - "Right headline, Wrong team"  :D
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #716 on: November 09, 2017, 11:12:53 AM »


YES LADS
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #717 on: November 09, 2017, 12:38:52 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on November 09, 2017, 09:47:13 AM
Your back to the constant discussion of do you play your best bowlers or a lesser bowler because of the pitch...it’s flawed thinking
We have had spinners do very well out there, it’s hot the pitch will bake

Ps I was in Worcester on Saturday it’s very nice, meet you for a pint next time

Yes the pitches will bake  and they will have bounce but will they turn has an indiactor England  seamers took 68 wickets out there in the last series not just me but the tv experts seem to agree also wasn't suggesting England play lesser bowlers.
Glad you liked Worcester it's  also a great place if you like English history.
Did you go to Fearnley or Hawk.
Look foreward to that pint.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #718 on: November 09, 2017, 12:45:01 PM »
Quote from: rickjames on November 09, 2017, 11:12:53 AM


YES LADS

Get him in at no. 5 good old fashioned Northern grit.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #719 on: November 09, 2017, 01:03:30 PM »
Quote from: Alvaro on November 09, 2017, 09:41:52 AM
Seniorplayer - if only one venue in Australia spins, which one do you mean?

Gabba, where Warne said was his favourite place to bowl
Adelaide, where Swann bowled out Oz in 2010
Or Sydney, just to swallow the truism?

Play your best bowlers from what you've got left, frankly.

Sydney the ground the Aussies  test team go to when they want to Practice against the turning ball
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