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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #180 on: September 27, 2017, 10:17:07 AM »

For me this screams of the fact that Bayliss doesn't get around enough to watch CC cricket and keeps on going back to players he knows even though they have failed - you can talk as much as you want about they know the set-up but if your rubbish then that doesn't matter  :(

There may not have been many outstanding candidates on the batting front but there were surely better options even if untried at Test level.

For me we have brought this on ourselves a bit by Root not batting himself at 3.

I do really like the Foakes and Crane selections though. Foakes has been outstanding all season and Crane has experience of bowling in Oz with NSW.

I am very surprised that Plunkett didn't get picked as i think he really could have made an impact into the Oz top order. They obviously didn't feel they could rely on Wood's fitness so Overton got selected - which again i think is justified.

My side would be -

Cook
Stoneman
Root
Malan
Bairstow
Stokes
Ali
Foakes
Woakes
Broad
Anderson

This relies on Root growing a pair and moving up to 3 - i really don't think Vince or Ballance are up to it - and Foakes will do will with the gloves and hold his own at 8 - we all know YJB is more then capable in the field.



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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #181 on: September 27, 2017, 10:24:18 AM »

Statistically yes, they should have selected Burns but it is a lot easier to score runs on a flat oval pitch than somewhere up north like Durham.

Arent a lot of the wickets in Oz going to be flat, alebit it with pace and bounce? I think playing at the Oval would have stood him in good stead?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #182 on: September 27, 2017, 10:27:33 AM »

Could we all be a bit surprised and they prep 5 turning wickets due to a worry over the fitness of there quicks? Or am I being silly?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #183 on: September 27, 2017, 10:31:54 AM »

Whatever Ballance has over Root i need to find out what it is and get the same with my skipper, guaranteed place in the team regardless of performances
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #184 on: September 27, 2017, 10:47:29 AM »

Balance is a sacrifical lamb to carry the drinks

Hales/Roy should go at 5 or 6 as with little swing they could be the most destructive players on the tour - although Malan could do this too just worry about Lyon confusing him

Foakes - Great.
Vince - is his technique better suited to Aus conditions. Also anothe captain in what will be a tough tour
Crane - fine potential. If there is an injury to Ali then perhaps they plunder the lions
Seamers - I don’t fancy Porter is Aus who takenna bucket load in the championship. It’s not like we have a deep stock of fast fast bowlers - wood will play one test and contribute to winning it

It’s not the great squad however it has enough to beat the Aussies. Let the fun begin

More concerned at the need to tell everyone in September whilst the Aussie are waiting till November!!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #185 on: September 27, 2017, 10:52:05 AM »

England are going to get embarrassed.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #186 on: September 27, 2017, 12:14:42 PM »

Balance is a sacrifical lamb to carry the drinks

Hales/Roy should go at 5 or 6 as with little swing they could be the most destructive players on the tour - although Malan could do this too just worry about Lyon confusing him

Foakes - Great.
Vince - is his technique better suited to Aus conditions. Also anothe captain in what will be a tough tour
Crane - fine potential. If there is an injury to Ali then perhaps they plunder the lions
Seamers - I don’t fancy Porter is Aus who takenna bucket load in the championship. It’s not like we have a deep stock of fast fast bowlers - wood will play one test and contribute to winning it

It’s not the great squad however it has enough to beat the Aussies. Let the fun begin

More concerned at the need to tell everyone in September whilst the Aussie are waiting till November!!

I wonder if Crane will also get named in the Lions squad, he will learn more playing cricket than he will running drinks.

I suspect they have to announce the side early to avoid players either booking holidays and then having to cancel or to stop them signing up for t20 franchises (applies more to the fringe players i guess)
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #187 on: September 27, 2017, 12:25:29 PM »


More concerned at the need to tell everyone in September whilst the Aussie are waiting till November!!

They leave on October 28th - so the most they really could of left it is a couple more weeks
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #188 on: September 27, 2017, 12:43:15 PM »

Crane in and no recall for Rashid with the dearth of spinners we have.

I'm no Rashid fan, but there has to be some other reason other than ability that he's not even getting a mention - I'm guessing he's not Root and The Coach's sort of 'chap'.

No, I think everyone is slowly waking up to the fact that Rashid is a bit crap.

Rashid's biggest selling point by far was "He's not Moeen Ali" during the days when the poor, misguided doubters believed our Mo couldn't bowl.

Now that everyone has realised that Moeen is the best thing in the world, "not Moeen Ali" doesn't hold the same appeal and people are starting to look at whether Rashid can actually bowl and the scales are starting to fall from their eyes.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #189 on: September 27, 2017, 01:10:31 PM »

Could we all be a bit surprised and they prep 5 turning wickets due to a worry over the fitness of there quicks? Or am I being silly?


Nope , we will duly supply you with boring , bog standard drop in  pitches , equipped with no seam , no swing , no turn , surprisingly little pace and less bounce than expected . I'm sure you'll all be mightily impressed .  ;) :D
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #190 on: September 27, 2017, 01:14:20 PM »

I'm not conVINCEd you guys selected a team with the right balLance !


But , geez , I hope england field a side with foakes , stokes , and woakes .... can't wait for our crappy commentators to drop their bundle over that !
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #191 on: September 27, 2017, 01:18:07 PM »

Good luck to everyone selected. I hope they do themselves and England proud.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #192 on: September 27, 2017, 01:49:58 PM »

I'm not conVINCEd you guys selected a team with the right balLance !


But , geez , I hope england field a side with foakes , stokes , and woakes .... can't wait for our crappy commentators to drop their bundle over that !

Haha!!  Slats, haydos and the truly awful Clarky

And that’s from the land that gave us the great Richie Benaud


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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #193 on: September 28, 2017, 02:11:51 AM »

Watched the Sky Trescothick masterclass today. Found it really interesting when he was talking about how he uses a big backwards trigger in county cricket, but that doing that wouldn't work with the increased pace in internationals, so he just stayed nice and still and focused on leaning into the ball instead. Could someone at the ECB book Gary Ballance a trip to Taunton for a chat in between now and November?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #194 on: September 28, 2017, 05:26:51 AM »

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/cricket/4563431/ben-stokes-england-axe-shocking-video-street-punch# footage of stokes punching two fellas. Can only presume he'll claim self defence as the guy was swinging first. The bloke at the end went down quicker than England in the sub continent
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