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[six and out]

It will be a case of whether the guy wants to press charges, i know that sounds obvious but i am sure the ECB money men can be very persuasive when they want to be. 

I know you can see Hales put the boot in there but it makes you wonder how the discussions want about Hales selection. I mean he was a contender to go and must have been talked about etc.... but this probably ruled him out straight away.

For me i am glad Stokes flattened him.... you back up your mates no questions asked.

[Neon Cricket]

Just put yourself in the position of you being outside a club and 2 drunk idiots coming and attacking your Mrs/friend with a bottle. Would you just 'leave it' and walk away? Should he have just left it? Yeah probably in a perfect world, but it isn't.

Yes, because I'm not a f**king idiot - let the police sort out the bloke with the bottle. When has taking the law into your own hands ever worked out for anyone?

Could I end it Stokes-esq? Probably. Would I? Nah.

[jamielsn15]

No good ever came from paper headlines that start with 'Premier league star/England player/professional sportsman was in/leaving (insert name of) bar/nightclub/casino.' Ever.

Far too many local lads tanked up on the batman juice who want to get a rise out of sports pro. And they nearly always do. Silly boy. Pay me over a million quid and I'd happily pay for a private room, or drink in my hotel bar,  etc.

The Warner issue was different as you had all parties definitely not wanting to press charges. Having spoken to a couple of cricket club mates who are coppers, they've said he's in trouble.

[Kieron_BT]

Yes, because I'm not a f**king idiot - let the police sort out the bloke with the bottle. When has taking the law into your own hands ever worked out for anyone?

Could I end it Stokes-esq? Probably. Would I? Nah.

And where were the police to sort it out? They weren't there!

So the next time someone gets attacked with a bottle they should turn around and say "Please don't do that, the police will be here in 20 minutes to deal with this. Please can you stand over there while they arrive to sort this out?"

As a said previously no-one on this forum was there, no-one knows what happened. You would be ok if Stokes had left this go, turned around and walked away and the guy picked up another bottle and glassed him from behind? These are the sort of drunken idiots we are talking about here. But it's ok, the police will deal with it then.

Get off your high horse mate.

If Stokes has done this with no provocation what-so-ever then I'm in total agreement that it is wayyyyy out of order and he will be dealt with as he should be.

[Kieron_BT]

As a side note to the actual episode which has resulted in this, I do agree with the point that Stokes etc. should have never put themselves in this position in the first place.

They are professional athletes in the middle of a cricket series, they shouldn't have even been in a club as 2.30am in the morning for this to happen in the first place.

[tate035]

Yes, because I'm not a f**king idiot - let the police sort out the bloke with the bottle. When has taking the law into your own hands ever worked out for anyone?

Could I end it Stokes-esq? Probably. Would I? Nah.

I notice you are asking the question because you have not been in that situation? I didn't see any Police on the videos so he couldn't ask them to intervene when he saw the bloke with the bottle coming towards people..

Personally I think you are a f***ing idiot because you are commenting on something you have no experience of...
Don't see the point of name calling someone when you don't know the full facts or have been in a similar situation...

[tate035]

No good ever came from paper headlines that start with 'Premier league star/England player/professional sportsman was in/leaving (insert name of) bar/nightclub/casino.' Ever.

Far too many local lads tanked up on the batman juice who want to get a rise out of sports pro. And they nearly always do. Silly boy. Pay me over a million quid and I'd happily pay for a private room, or drink in my hotel bar,  etc.

The Warner issue was different as you had all parties definitely not wanting to press charges. Having spoken to a couple of cricket club mates who are coppers, they've said he's in trouble.

Interesting... I know of a few coppers who have done similar things on a night out and those coppers still kept their jobs...
In fact a famous copper ran someone over on a pedestrian crossing whilst under the influence and still kept his job and pension...

[golders]

I think it's the extreme reaction from Stokes that concerns me. Ok if he throws a couple of punches, but he behaves like a raged animal who has just been released from his cage,going again and again- at one point a mate (Hales?) Tries to pull him away,but  Stokes can't stop himself.
To me the issue  a here is alcohol -needs to give up the booze as it turns him,horrible to see.

[tate035]

I think it's the extreme reaction from Stokes that concerns me. Ok if he throws a couple of punches, but he behaves like a raged animal who has just been released from his cage,going again and again- at one point a mate (Hales?) Tries to pull him away,but  Stokes can't stop himself.
To me the issue  a here is alcohol -needs to give up the booze as it turns him,horrible to see.

Don't think anybody can say he didn't take it to far.. The drinking is an interesting debate... Yes he has had problems over the years but he is still only 26 and hopefully this incident will make him choose more wisely where he goes for a drink HOWEVER there is no place in society for anyone to threaten people with a bottle.. Bottom line is that if the guy had not threatened people with that bottle then Stokes and Hales would have had a drink and gone back to the hotel. IMO nothing wrong with that even at 2.30 am..

[Kieron_BT]

Agreed Tate, certainly went too far, it's the line saying he should have just walked away and left it that winds me up.

No problem with being in a club at 2.30am in between series' but not in-between games, but that's just my opinion.

[golders]

The problem with booze is it makes one more vulnerable- especially if you are in a club environment, where the majority drink to excess. Stokes isn't an 18 year old fresher anymore- I suggest that if they hadn't made the initial poor choice of venue,this would never have happened. In any case,this is a sad situation,and the Ashes will be a poorer spectacle without him,if indeed he is banned/charged

[FattusCattus]

Yep - it seems many of us are coming round to the same conclusion.

The fisticuffs were not good, but he looks like he;s been seriously provoked.

However, you have to question the wisdom of being p*ssed up at 2.30am in a city centre, away from your mates and in the middle of a series, as opposed to being p*ssed up at 2.30am in your luxurious hotel bar with all your mates and in the middle of a series.

[iand123]

Unfortunate cover in last weeks Times supplement....

[jamielsn15]

Interesting... I know of a few coppers who have done similar things on a night out and those coppers still kept their jobs...
In fact a famous copper ran someone over on a pedestrian crossing whilst under the influence and still kept his job and pension...

So that brings us onto the question of privilege, in a week where an Oxford uni student was spared jail time for stabbing her boyfriend as the judge felt it would harm her career prospects.

It also depends on the CPS and their intent to prosecute such crimes. Whether ABH is a current issue for them, who knows? Many factors to take into account, but as I say, the consensus with law enforcememt colleagues is that we dont see what happened before, but he went way too far.

[justnotcricket86]

The way our justice system is these days, Stokes will get banged up.

However, how many times you read in the news that these sick bastards get caught with indecent images and get put on a list and sent home, and as mentioned above, that little cow who stabbed someone and got away with it.[