Topic: Ashes 2017-18 (Read 407074 times)

Smmatle1 · « **Reply #225 on:** September 28, 2017, 10:17:13 AM »

I can't see the other guy pressing charges if he instigated the incident....attacking someone with a weapon! Police could still press charges.

You can use reasonable force to defend yourself or others, but this goes way beyond that point. The original aggressors were seemingly backing off and the others were heard saying "that's enough". I know it's heat of the moment stuff and we don't know the full facts, but looks like he could be in trouble. Video doesn't show what preceded the incident nor how it ended....Sun edited for max damage?

justnotcricket86 · « **Reply #226 on:** September 28, 2017, 10:18:12 AM »

Quote from: Smmatle1 on September 28, 2017, 10:17:13 AM

I can't see the other guy pressing charges if he instigated the incident....attacking someone with a weapon! Police could still press charges.

You can use reasonable force to defend yourself or others, but this goes way beyond that point. The original aggressors were seemingly backing off and the others were heard saying "that's enough". I know it's heat of the moment stuff and we don't know the full facts, but looks like he could be in trouble. Video doesn't show what preceded the incident nor how it ended....Sun edited for max damage?

Of course it's been edited. It's the Sun

six and out · « **Reply #227 on:** September 28, 2017, 10:31:57 AM »

They are the 2 biggest questions for me -

1. What haven't we seen - there is definitely more to that video - and obviously The Sun have previous when it comes to altering the truth for headlines!

2. Who is then going to press charges

Kieron_BT · « **Reply #228 on:** September 28, 2017, 10:32:21 AM »

According to rumours on Twitter, and I enhance the word rumours, Stokes has given his side of the story.

Apparently the 2 guys threatening, taunting and abusing 2 gay men (I know being gay has nothing to do with this, just simply going on the Twitter rumours). Stokes was incensed by the abuse the 2 men were giving and preceded to raise a bottle to potentially attempt to attack the 2 men and potentially Stokes himself.

Stokes took matters into his own hands as seen in the video. He has the view of they started it and he finished it.

ppccopener · « **Reply #229 on:** September 28, 2017, 11:00:51 AM »

Stokes is going to need all this albeit rumours at the moment basically anything he can use as defending himself
I�m not a lawyer but the bottle if there is one could be crucial

rickjames · « **Reply #230 on:** September 28, 2017, 11:07:19 AM »

Quote from: Kieron_BT on September 28, 2017, 10:32:21 AM

According to rumours on Twitter, and I enhance the word rumours, Stokes has given his side of the story.

Apparently the 2 guys threatening, taunting and abusing 2 gay men (I know being gay has nothing to do with this, just simply going on the Twitter rumours). Stokes was incensed by the abuse the 2 men were giving and preceded to raise a bottle to potentially attempt to attack the 2 men and potentially Stokes himself.

Stokes took matters into his own hands as seen in the video. He has the view of they started it and he finished it.

Please don't trust anything that comes from Piers Morgan as it's primary source.

Smmatle1 · « **Reply #231 on:** September 28, 2017, 11:07:47 AM »

Quote from: justnotcricket86 on September 28, 2017, 10:18:12 AM

Of course it's been edited. It's the Sun

Would love them to be as sensationalistic with their own misdemeanours!

Kulli · « **Reply #232 on:** September 28, 2017, 11:09:28 AM »

Forgetting Stokes MMA debut for a moment, are there genuinely people out there that would have taken Dawson over Crane? Rashid I don't agree with t but can sort of understand a case could be made. Possibly the same for Leach, though a suspect action and maybe more so a bad Lions tour seems to have ruled him out.

Crane hasn't done much in CC but I took it as read that he'd be on the plane when they have had him involved in everything and he tore it up in Oz last winter.

ppccopener · « **Reply #233 on:** September 28, 2017, 11:09:58 AM »

The search for the two gay guys stokes said he defended is on
Never has the gay population of Bristol been so important

Kulli · « **Reply #234 on:** September 28, 2017, 11:17:01 AM »

Quote from: Kieron_BT on September 28, 2017, 10:32:21 AM

According to rumours on Twitter, and I enhance the word rumours, Stokes has given his side of the story.

Apparently the 2 guys threatening, taunting and abusing 2 gay men (I know being gay has nothing to do with this, just simply going on the Twitter rumours). Stokes was incensed by the abuse the 2 men were giving and preceded to raise a bottle to potentially attempt to attack the 2 men and potentially Stokes himself.

Stokes took matters into his own hands as seen in the video. He has the view of they started it and he finished it.

So which one will be outed, Ball or Hales?

Manormanic · « **Reply #235 on:** September 28, 2017, 11:32:05 AM »

Quote from: Kulli on September 28, 2017, 11:09:28 AM

Forgetting Stokes MMA debut for a moment, are there genuinely people out there that would have taken Dawson over Crane? Rashid I don't agree with t but can sort of understand a case could be made. Possibly the same for Leach, though a suspect action and maybe more so a bad Lions tour seems to have ruled him out.

Crane hasn't done much in CC but I took it as read that he'd be on the plane when they have had him involved in everything and he tore it up in Oz last winter.

Crane has been selected as the second spinner in conditions where it is likely to rag. As such - given that we're basically talking about one game - he is not a bad call as he will benefit from the experienec of carrying drinks and being around the squad.

If Ali were not fit...its tricky. Rashid is no more a first spinner in Australian conditions, and I suspect that Leach's action remains impure on occasion. So, its a case of call in a like for like - Patel or Dawson - or go for the best young English spinner in Dom Bess (who would have been ruled out originally because two offies is a combination lacking balance)

manno · « **Reply #236 on:** September 28, 2017, 12:02:28 PM »

Typical caveman itching for a blue.

tate035 · « **Reply #237 on:** September 28, 2017, 12:05:22 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on September 28, 2017, 11:00:51 AM

Stokes is going to need all this albeit rumours at the moment basically anything he can use as defending himself
I�m not a lawyer but the bottle if there is one could be crucial

Bottle is there for anyone to see in the videos... Even Wenger couldn't say " I didn't see it" on this occasion..

ppccopener · « **Reply #238 on:** September 28, 2017, 12:46:04 PM »

I�m sure there�s a huge number of fans hoping Stokes is telling the truth about defending a couple of other guys,the video looks real bad

He will need all mitigating evidence I would think in his favoursocial
Sports stars fall from grace this is real life, the comparison with Botham is not lost on me- only back in the day there was no video or social media

golders · « **Reply #239 on:** September 28, 2017, 12:57:31 PM »

If Stokes had disarmed the tool with the bottle and performed a citizen's arrest,then fair enough. Going by what I've seen,he has taken the law into his own hands,surely it's as simple as that? Surely he faces the sack at the very least?

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