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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #270 on: September 28, 2017, 02:30:42 PM »
Quote from: rickjames on September 28, 2017, 02:20:56 PM
Stokes and Hales suspended for England selection 'until further notice'

Stokes injured anyhow but think Hales could be in trouble yet as he can clearly be seen kicking someone in the head who is on the ground...
There is no nice side to a brawl but personally don't think its right to kick people when they on floor.
Even MMA don't do that...  :o
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #271 on: September 28, 2017, 02:34:41 PM »
Quote from: tate035 on September 28, 2017, 02:30:42 PM
Stokes injured anyhow but think Hales could be in trouble yet as he can clearly be seen kicking someone in the head who is on the ground...
There is no nice side to a brawl but personally don't think its right to kick people when they on floor.
Even MMA don't do that...  :o

In UFC they sit on them and punch them in the head repeatedly... maybe hales was confused and thought it was ok. we all do stupid things whilst drunk. Don't think there's significant damage done though so lucky for both really.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #272 on: September 28, 2017, 02:42:01 PM »
https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/483532 not considered for selection until further notice
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #273 on: September 28, 2017, 02:43:22 PM »
Quote from: iand123 on September 28, 2017, 02:42:01 PM
https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/483532 not considered for selection until further notice

As below  ;)

Quote from: rickjames on September 28, 2017, 02:20:56 PM
Stokes and Hales suspended for England selection 'until further notice'
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #274 on: September 28, 2017, 02:45:11 PM »
There goes the innocent till proven guilty

But to be fair right thing to suspend pending an investigation but all this talk of disciplinary they must have more facts than have been released to public.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #275 on: September 28, 2017, 02:48:28 PM »
Quote from: Woodyspin on September 28, 2017, 02:34:41 PM
In UFC they sit on them and punch them in the head repeatedly... maybe hales was confused and thought it was ok. we all do stupid things whilst drunk. Don't think there's significant damage done though so lucky for both really.

That was my point.. Sitting on them and punching is acceptable in sport so Stokes is ok ( ;)) but Hales was IMO more out of order...
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #276 on: September 28, 2017, 02:49:28 PM »
I think that's normal procedure to be honest. But wouldn't be surprised if they do have more information about it. Jimmy and Jake Ball were out that night too as pictures suggest. Maybe they know something?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #277 on: September 28, 2017, 02:50:48 PM »
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #278 on: September 28, 2017, 02:51:34 PM »
that's what I mean

you would think they would say "suspended pending an investigation" that statement sounds like they have made up their minds already

oh well full IPL Big Bash for stokes next year then.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #279 on: September 28, 2017, 03:00:11 PM »
see i read it differently - I read it as suspended until a police charge (if any is issued). ECB can't be seen not suspending players if they get arrested, they've done just that. if they don't get charged the ECB will still be expected to punish Stokes and Hales. and i'd expect either a very hefty fine or even exclusion from selection for some time.

In laymans terms. either 6 month suspension or a couple months fine and a couple of games banned? I honestly and clearly haven't got a clue. Hope it's the latter though
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« Reply #280 on: September 28, 2017, 03:03:36 PM »
High profile players being in a nightclub at 2.30am in the middle of a series knowing there's a chance someone is liable to have a go is clearly foolish.
But  Stokes comes over as a decent guy not one to provokes fights  yes he  will wind up the opposition and thump a locker
But he's also one who gave £500.00 to an injured ameture player.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #281 on: September 28, 2017, 03:04:04 PM »
Fair enough I can see how you would see that

When it says disciplinary procedures have been opened that worries me as surely wait to see what result of police investigation is then decide what action to take

Hopefully they are doing what you say and will make a decision on severity or ban or fine after police decide if they have enough grounds to charge.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #282 on: September 28, 2017, 03:06:46 PM »
Agreed @Seniorplayer. He's a see you next tuesday. but the kind that you'd want as a friend. Funny i've heard that somewhere before  :D
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #283 on: September 28, 2017, 03:21:44 PM »


Little preview of the winter
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #284 on: September 28, 2017, 03:27:23 PM »
I cant see anyway Stokes can go to the Ashes after that statement. If KP got sacked for not looking interested, then flooring 3 people isn't going to wash?
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