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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #435 on: October 06, 2017, 11:51:20 AM »
Stokes travel delayed, Finn added to squad

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/41522536
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #436 on: October 06, 2017, 11:57:22 AM »
Quote from: mattdawson on October 06, 2017, 11:50:13 AM
Tour prep is going well...

ECB announce that @jbairstow21, @JakeBall & @Liam628 have been fined for unprofessional conduct. Unrelated to Stokes/Hales investigation
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Being out during the ODI series  until the early hours
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #437 on: October 06, 2017, 12:16:32 PM »
Ben stokes.

Steven finn

2 of these are not the same. 1 is not like the other!



England super poor in the batting department, lose an all-rounder, let's add a bowler to the squad!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #438 on: October 06, 2017, 12:19:12 PM »
I’m gonna say this ....and I cannot stand the bloke and his fake tattoos , his selfishness and disruptive influence on the team...
But...

Kevin pieterson never did anything like this and got permanently sacked
Always trained and practised and if he did have a few beers never got in trouble.
No one could question his commitment to improve and be the best he could be.

There I’ve said it.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #439 on: October 06, 2017, 12:24:33 PM »
Does Finn's addition suggest they will play an extra bowler?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #440 on: October 06, 2017, 12:29:54 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on October 06, 2017, 12:19:12 PM
I’m gonna say this ....and I cannot stand the bloke and his fake tattoos , his selfishness and disruptive influence on the team...
But...

Kevin pieterson never did anything like this and got permanently sacked
Always trained and practised and if he did have a few beers never got in trouble.
No one could question his commitment to improve and be the best he could be.

There I’ve said it.

Yeah - but Ben Stokes never texted his mates in the opposition team with advice on how to get his own captain out.

Ben Stokes (to our knowledge) has never attempted to oust an existing coach

Ben Stokes (to our knowledge) hasn't belittled a debutant teammates abilities in front of the rest of the team.


They are frankly no better than each other in different ways.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #441 on: October 06, 2017, 12:30:24 PM »
Quote from: iand123 on October 06, 2017, 12:24:33 PM
Does Finn's addition suggest they will play an extra bowler?

No - it suggests they are clueless as to the best balance of squad to pick.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #442 on: October 06, 2017, 12:36:41 PM »
The unselectable Steven Finn has been selected wow!

I give up I actually give up! Utter nonsense selection!

Plunkett should have been the man!

It's unfathomable!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #443 on: October 06, 2017, 12:45:43 PM »
i really don't get on the day you take away Finn's central contract you can select him for the Ashes!

this is absolutely bazaar  :( :(
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #444 on: October 06, 2017, 12:49:43 PM »
So Finn has bowled well in his last match of the season at County level and not looked particularly special up until then, and is not a great batsman either.
And Plunkett has bowled well at International level (be it in ODI format) and can handle a bat too.
So let's pick Finn!  :o

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #445 on: October 06, 2017, 12:55:23 PM »
So do we reckon woakes will bat at 6 in the ashes. You know with him being a genuine all-rounder.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #446 on: October 06, 2017, 01:13:47 PM »
Think I'll stop looking for cheap BT Sport.

We're going to get murdered, aren't we.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #447 on: October 06, 2017, 01:31:41 PM »
Can only presume they believe Finn does more with the red ball than any other option.

Wasn't it reported they felt Plunkett didn't do enough with the red ball had no lateral movement.

can get away with that in white ball apparently, but not with a red kook that will move for 20 over max?

Personal opinion is we need an extra bowler for the tests, 3 seamers and a spinner would be a lot of strain on them over 5 tests when we'll be bowling twice in 1.5 days at this rate.

But theres definitely not enough depth in batting, proves where Stokes was so valuable to this side as he appeared to mature on the pitch less so off it. 
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #448 on: October 06, 2017, 01:45:09 PM »
Disagree, i like Finn. Its unfortunate graeme Smith messed him up a bit. His not likely to play anyway, is he? Probably a good drinks carrier.

With Woakes Moeen and Bairstow we have alot of allrounder that allow us to pick an extra bat or bowler dependant of the wicket. We are quite lucky with all rounders even if stokes cannot play.

Plunkett should be there but his only bowled 43 overs in county cricket this year. So i can understand why theyve not picked him.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #449 on: October 06, 2017, 02:01:46 PM »
Quote from: Tailendfielder on October 06, 2017, 01:45:09 PM
Disagree, i like Finn. Its unfortunate graeme Smith messed him up a bit. His not likely to play anyway, is he? Probably a good drinks carrier.

With Woakes Moeen and Bairstow we have alot of allrounder that allow us to pick an extra bat or bowler dependant of the wicket. We are quite lucky with all rounders even if stokes cannot play.

Plunkett should be there but his only bowled 43 overs in county cricket this year. So i can understand why theyve not picked him.

Are you even a real fan if you agree with the national selectors in any sport?  ;)
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