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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #465 on: October 06, 2017, 08:16:06 PM »
Quote from: Manormanic on October 06, 2017, 06:37:38 PM
Look, I'm usually the first to spot the slight on the Yorkshire lad but really, Plunkett has no red ball form to speak off for two years or more and is not quite quick enough to be the hurry up merchant people are expecting.  Not saying Finn would have been my pick, but I can sort of see why Liam wasn't.

Point taken but for me on those Australian wickets I would pick Plunkett to bowl the same back of a length delivery he does in one day cricket.
Plunkett also has a great shorter ball that he aims at the body with decent pace...
Too many demons for Finn in Australia and Plunkett is a better bat and fielder..  :)
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #466 on: October 06, 2017, 08:39:16 PM »
Take your point about batting and fielding, but surely someone with some red ball form has to be taken.

Not certain who, mind.  For pure pace, I wonder whether Mark Footitt could have been a wild card?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #467 on: October 06, 2017, 08:51:05 PM »
And therein lies the question. Who else, apart from Overton is a ‘hurry up merchant ‘?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #468 on: October 06, 2017, 09:35:12 PM »
Quote from: FattusCattus on October 06, 2017, 08:51:05 PM
And therein lies the question. Who else, apart from Overton is a ‘hurry up merchant ‘?

And that is the other Overton!

From what I have seen, the quickest are Footitt, Archer and on his day Meaker. Matt Fisher and Josh Tongue have the potential to make it there, and some say Tom Helm can to, though I have not seen it.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #469 on: October 06, 2017, 09:50:59 PM »
Meaker in Australia would be a disaster. Please don't entertain the though.

Again, YJB being fined is madness. He's the kind of bloke who would help your nan with her shopping
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #470 on: October 06, 2017, 10:11:22 PM »
I saw a bit of Olly Stone on sky during one of the T20 games,he hit 90 mph a couple of times. Otis Gibson talked him up as a prospect. Has had injury troubles though.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #471 on: October 06, 2017, 10:24:15 PM »
Mark Footitt got an injury after joining Notts and did not play. If he'd have reproduced his early season form he'd have been in with a strong shout.

Meaker?  Don't be ridiculous!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #472 on: October 06, 2017, 10:34:57 PM »
Quote from: Manormanic on October 06, 2017, 07:40:15 PM
Quite.  He's not another angry Ginger haired larrikin in his spare time at all!

But he does seem to change his bat sponsor quite often.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #473 on: October 07, 2017, 09:36:27 AM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on October 06, 2017, 10:24:15 PM
Mark Footitt got an injury after joining Notts and did not play. If he'd have reproduced his early season form he'd have been in with a strong shout.

Meaker?  Don't be ridiculous!

I was not for a moment proposing that any of those listed be selected, I was merely saying they were amongst the fastest men in the Championship last season, more to illustrate the paucity of options than anything!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #474 on: October 07, 2017, 11:39:40 AM »
Always felt  a special batsman or bowler was being considered Finns selection is due to the notion that pace and bounce in OZ (69 wickets last series to seamers ) wins matches  therefore it should have been Plukett but it's obvious now that the selectors see him as an ODI only player.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #475 on: October 07, 2017, 04:57:48 PM »
According to the BBC hales isn't expecting any charges against him, he should be available for the Odis after the ashes if that is the case unless the ecb suspends him
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #476 on: October 07, 2017, 05:12:26 PM »
I find it strange that Hales's lawyer has come out and said he doesn't expect a charge when it's an ongoing investigation.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #477 on: October 07, 2017, 05:21:23 PM »
I dont.

Neither will get charged, and stokes will play Ashes. Ecb and a sympathetic police will massage a suitable outcome for the sake of national sporting success. Sad but true.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #478 on: October 07, 2017, 05:41:05 PM »
That's great news Manno,I do hope you're right! Ashes success comes before crime and punishment in my book!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #479 on: October 07, 2017, 06:01:32 PM »
Quote from: manno on October 07, 2017, 05:21:23 PM
I dont.

Neither will get charged, and stokes will play Ashes. Ecb and a sympathetic police will massage a suitable outcome for the sake of national sporting success. Sad but true.

Aussies would do the same
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