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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #480 on: October 07, 2017, 06:07:22 PM »
Quote from: manno on October 07, 2017, 05:21:23 PM
I dont.

Neither will get charged, and stokes will play Ashes. Ecb and a sympathetic police will massage a suitable outcome for the sake of national sporting success. Sad but true.

"a sympathetic police"?  Really?  If Stokes were Joepublic, I doubt he would even be under investigation - man wields bottle, man gets smashed, end of.  The ECB treatment of him is so far removed from what any normal person would see. 
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #481 on: October 07, 2017, 06:20:00 PM »
Yeah really. I can assure you, if joepublics boss saw footage of that he'd soon be joeunemployed.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #482 on: October 07, 2017, 07:29:24 PM »
Quote from: manno on October 07, 2017, 06:20:00 PM
Yeah really. I can assure you, if joepublics boss saw footage of that he'd soon be joeunemployed.

Really? *takes law degree off shelf*
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #483 on: October 07, 2017, 07:58:48 PM »
"Man wields bottle, man gets smashed, end of. Your honour, i rest my case!"

Stokes needs you on his legal team.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #484 on: October 07, 2017, 08:47:15 PM »
Quote from: manno on October 07, 2017, 06:20:00 PM
Yeah really. I can assure you, if joepublics boss saw footage of that he'd soon be joeunemployed.

Not sure who you work for but not a chance my current (or any of my previous for that matter) bosses would sack me because of a fight on a night out....

Work is Mon-Fri, whatever you do at the weekend is up to you unless you are, on that night out, directly representing your company.

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #485 on: October 07, 2017, 08:58:18 PM »
According to Vaughan on the Tuffers and Vaughan show,as it was mid-ODI series,Stokes was still"at work" at 2am in Bristol on 25th September...
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #486 on: October 08, 2017, 12:35:43 AM »
Quote from: Calzehbhoy on October 07, 2017, 08:47:15 PM
Not sure who you work for but not a chance my current (or any of my previous for that matter) bosses would sack me because of a fight on a night out....

Work is Mon-Fri, whatever you do at the weekend is up to you unless you are, on that night out, directly representing your company.

If it gets out in the press who your employers are then they are well within their right to dismiss you for bringing the companies name into disrepute
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #487 on: October 08, 2017, 12:38:09 AM »
Quote from: Manormanic on October 07, 2017, 06:07:22 PM
"a sympathetic police"?  Really?  If Stokes were Joepublic, I doubt he would even be under investigation - man wields bottle, man gets smashed, end of.  The ECB treatment of him is so far removed from what any normal person would see.

you make it sound acceptable that he punched him. How about man wields bottle other man thinks i'm not getting involved in this (especially as i'm an international sports superstar) i'm going go home
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #488 on: October 08, 2017, 12:45:40 AM »
Quote from: Calzehbhoy on October 07, 2017, 08:47:15 PM
Not sure who you work for but not a chance my current (or any of my previous for that matter) bosses would sack me because of a fight on a night out....

Work is Mon-Fri, whatever you do at the weekend is up to you unless you are, on that night out, directly representing your company.

When you're an international sports star, pretty much everything you do represents your employer.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #489 on: October 08, 2017, 01:05:40 AM »
Quote from: mdg20 on October 08, 2017, 12:38:09 AM
you make it sound acceptable that he punched him. How about man wields bottle other man thinks i'm not getting involved in this (especially as i'm an international sports superstar) i'm going go home

So if someone comes at you with a bottle you’re going to say “jolly-ho I’m off now”?

I’ve seen a friend nearly die after being smashed on the head with a bottle, you think that just because Stokes happens to be good at cricket, he should be able to laugh off someone trying to seriously injure him?



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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #490 on: October 08, 2017, 06:38:30 AM »
Quote from: NT50 on October 08, 2017, 01:05:40 AM
So if someone comes at you with a bottle you’re going to say “jolly-ho I’m off now”?

I’ve seen a friend nearly die after being smashed on the head with a bottle, you think that just because Stokes happens to be good at cricket, he should be able to laugh off someone trying to seriously injure him?

Having watched the video again, if there is a bottle involved, it gets dropped in the first few seconds. It's at this point that a sober Ben Stokes might have thought better of it.

Employment wise, it probably reflects badly on you as a person if a video emerges of you fighting on a night out. Even if you are Joe Public.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #491 on: October 08, 2017, 08:45:24 AM »
Quote from: NT50 on October 08, 2017, 01:05:40 AM
So if someone comes at you with a bottle you’re going to say “jolly-ho I’m off now”?

I’ve seen a friend nearly die after being smashed on the head with a bottle, you think that just because Stokes happens to be good at cricket, he should be able to laugh off someone trying to seriously injure him?

Yes, you run away. Sorry if that doesn't match up to the brain dead manly/macho do him before he does you thinking. Not like he was pinned in the corner with no way out.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #492 on: October 08, 2017, 10:34:29 AM »
Why is this still being discussed? 😂
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #493 on: October 08, 2017, 10:55:53 AM »
Funny world we live in.


Stokes is being vilified for not running away and standing up for himself.


Dan bilzerian ran away from a man shooting at a crowd from a vantage point, and he's being vilified for not helping and shooting back.


Not sure anyone can win either way

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #494 on: October 08, 2017, 11:05:16 AM »
Quote from: smilley792 on October 08, 2017, 10:55:53 AM
Funny world we live in.


Stokes is being vilified for not running away and standing up for himself.


Dan bilzerian ran away from a man shooting at a crowd from a vantage point, and he's being vilified for not helping and shooting back.


Not sure anyone can win either way

To be fair Dan Blitz claims hes the best of the best, he may have gone back later on but his initial reaction was to film it for instagram.

I dont blame him I'd be the first away from it all but i dont claim to be what he says he is.

But yes noone will win because there's a expectation of perfection.
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