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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #810 on: November 14, 2017, 11:28:08 AM »
Quote from: Kulli on November 14, 2017, 09:43:10 AM
Bancroft has hardly ever kept in 1st class, he might bat 6, but he’ll never keep.

so play him as a batsmen and let handscomb keep, or is that not an option?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #811 on: November 14, 2017, 12:08:58 PM »
Quote from: alexhilly1492 on November 14, 2017, 11:28:08 AM
so play him as a batsmen and let handscomb keep, or is that not an option?
Think the same would apply for Handscomb.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #812 on: November 14, 2017, 12:10:00 PM »
Quote from: alexhilly1492 on November 14, 2017, 11:28:08 AM
so play him as a batsmen and let handscomb keep, or is that not an option?

Isn't Hanscomb a part time keeper too?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #813 on: November 14, 2017, 12:30:05 PM »
Haha.
Maybe we pick bancroft as opener, and a specialist batsman (or allrounder) at 7 , and Bancroft and Handscomb can share the keeping duties . Maybe wear one glove and pad each ?  ;) :D :D
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #814 on: November 14, 2017, 12:48:10 PM »
Handscomb is a smoggie so having been brought up under a toxic cloud from ICI Wilton, his webbed 6 digit hands would need custom gloves.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #815 on: November 14, 2017, 01:26:08 PM »
The Handscomb keeping thing is what i always didn't get as it completely solves the Aussies - 'can't find a genuine allrounder' issue.

I think i am right in saying he kept for Yorkshire during the summer?

In Australia he is going to be standing back with consistent bounce at least 85% of the time i reckon - it's not like keeping in India etc... where Aus have just come from.

If Handscomb kept it completely changes Australia's selection - no. 6 can be a complete batter and you can select another bowler or even that allrounder at no.7
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #816 on: November 14, 2017, 01:53:30 PM »
As an Englishman I much prefer the look of the side with Wade in it...  ;)
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #817 on: November 14, 2017, 02:13:08 PM »
Bancroft is a proper keeper. He has kept all is life in all levels but 1st class. He wasn't chosen for WA as Whitman was in the team from the age group before and hence kept the gloves Bancroft becoming a specialist batsman. Handscombe is a part time keeper and always has been and has said himself he is only comfortable keeping in LO cricket.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #818 on: November 14, 2017, 02:32:43 PM »
Quote from: six and out on November 14, 2017, 01:26:08 PM
I think i am right in saying he kept for Yorkshire during the summer?


He did, in the one day stuff.  He was not particularly impressive.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #819 on: November 14, 2017, 06:46:09 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Galore on November 14, 2017, 02:13:08 PM
Bancroft is a proper keeper. He has kept all is life in all levels but 1st class. He wasn't chosen for WA as Whitman was in the team from the age group before and hence kept the gloves Bancroft becoming a specialist batsman. Handscombe is a part time keeper and always has been and has said himself he is only comfortable keeping in LO cricket.

Thats great news , gives me confidence he could do the job .
Geez, they better pick him somewhere ....
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #820 on: November 14, 2017, 08:57:49 PM »
Another day passes with no stokes announcement. A few things perhaps to consider

Are we ready to hand over the ashes with no ginger ninja?

Do we think this is the weakest Aussie team ever seen in ...Australia?

Can Steve smith keep up his phenomenal run scoring with a technique from the village green?

Do we secretly envy the Australian way of life and the fact some of their women are stronger than us men?

Do you know what a scooner is?

Do we really really really not miss mark Nicholas but wish the brilliant Richie benaud could commentate on just one more series?

So many questions we just don't know the answer too.

Roll on the 1st test.  :)

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #821 on: November 14, 2017, 09:54:38 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on November 14, 2017, 08:57:49 PM
Another day passes with no stokes announcement. A few things perhaps to consider

Are we ready to hand over the ashes with no ginger ninja?

Do we think this is the weakest Aussie team ever seen in ...Australia?

Can Steve smith keep up his phenomenal run scoring with a technique from the village green?

Do we secretly envy the Australian way of life and the fact some of their women are stronger than us men?

Do you know what a scooner is?

Do we really really really not miss mark Nicholas but wish the brilliant Richie benaud could commentate on just one more series?

So many questions we just don't know the answer too.

Roll on the 1st test.  :)

Calm down chap
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #822 on: November 14, 2017, 10:18:05 PM »
Who i would pick with the teams lined up
Warner Vs Cook (home advantage wins)

Renshaw Vs Stoneman (only because he has a few more test matches under his belt)

Smith Vs Vince (no explination required)

Khawaja Vs Root (Root a class above)

Handscomb Vs Malan (handscomb with more experience)

Wade/Nevill/Bancroft/Alyssa Healy, Australian Cattle Dog/Backstop Vs Bairstow (because he is going to be in the side)

Maxwell/Cartwright/S. Marsh/Bancroft vs Ali (Tie, im tipping Ali to struggle with the ball massively, the Australian candidates will bowl little if at all and the genuine bats will be stronger than Ali but dont bowl)

Starc Vs Woakes (starc is in a different league)

Cummins Vs Broad (Tie, raw young pace and talent vs experience, word is broad has lost his swing and just hasnt been the same with the bat since he got hit in the mug a few years ago, cummins can also hold a bat)

Hazelwood Vs Anderson (anderson sadly well past his best, i think he will struggle with injury and form)

Lyon Vs Overton/Ball/Team Physio/Talented member of touring Barmy Army (Lyon cops alot of critisism but his record does the talking, especially in Australia)

No Stokes because you cant beat down on a person like he did, regardless of what they said. No excuses, get some help son.



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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #823 on: November 14, 2017, 10:37:24 PM »
If you pick it as the strongest XI rather than head to head...

Warner
Cook
Smith
Root
Hanscomb, probably, maybe
Bairstow
Ali
Starc
Cummins
Anderson
Lyon, who is no longer a clubbie.

If Sturks turns up, he comes in for Lyon and evens things up. It's the same series it ever was - on paper, Aussie pace and experience in the conditions beats English depth.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #824 on: November 15, 2017, 01:25:55 AM »
Quote from: HellomynameisJ on November 14, 2017, 10:18:05 PM
Who i would pick with the teams lined up
Warner Vs Cook (home advantage wins)

Renshaw Vs Stoneman (only because he has a few more test matches under his belt)

Smith Vs Vince (no explination required)

Khawaja Vs Root (Root a class above)

Handscomb Vs Malan (handscomb with more experience)

Wade/Nevill/Bancroft/Alyssa Healy, Australian Cattle Dog/Backstop Vs Bairstow (because he is going to be in the side)

Maxwell/Cartwright/S. Marsh/Bancroft vs Ali (Tie, im tipping Ali to struggle with the ball massively, the Australian candidates will bowl little if at all and the genuine bats will be stronger than Ali but dont bowl)

Starc Vs Woakes (starc is in a different league)

Cummins Vs Broad (Tie, raw young pace and talent vs experience, word is broad has lost his swing and just hasnt been the same with the bat since he got hit in the mug a few years ago, cummins can also hold a bat)

Hazelwood Vs Anderson (anderson sadly well past his best, i think he will struggle with injury and form)

Lyon Vs Overton/Ball/Team Physio/Talented member of touring Barmy Army (Lyon cops alot of critisism but his record does the talking, especially in Australia)

No Stokes because you cant beat down on a person like he did, regardless of what they said. No excuses, get some help son.



i think ali will have a good series with the bat (oz will forget to bounce him enough) and could suprise a few with the ball. so id give that one to the poms.
cummins vs broad , i disagree it's a draw. broad can only hope for an average series.  at adelaide he should do ok and at the gabba and wacca he may do ok with the new ball if he gets his lengths right , but he will get smashed for long periods due to his increasingly pedestrian pace whenever he cant get the ball to move or it is old etc. cummins will shake up a lot of batsmen this series .
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