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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1065 on: November 23, 2017, 10:17:59 AM »
The new ball is key! It's just been taken so Ali and Malan need to get through the first 20-30 overs with no more than 1 wicket down!
If Aus take 2 or more wickets with the new ball then England will not post a competitive score!

If the wicket gets a little quicker (as is expected) then that could help when England bowl? Plus if the wicket continues to take spin, then that has to help England especially as we do have Mo plus 2 "part time" spinners who can take wickets. If this happens then so much pressure will be on the likes of Warner and Smith!!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1066 on: November 23, 2017, 10:25:47 AM »
Quote from: petehosk on November 23, 2017, 09:35:40 AM
I suspect Ali will be fine at 6 or 8! He seems to do a decent job most of the time.
Interested to see when there will be more news on Stokes? There surely has to be some soon! When do the Police need to decide whether they are charging him or not?

The fact he released a video last night wishing the boys good luck for the 1st test, rather than the series, suggests he's just sorting out his packing....
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1067 on: November 23, 2017, 10:26:45 AM »
The pitch taking spin is surely due to it being damp, shouldn’t continue to rag like that?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1068 on: November 23, 2017, 10:39:36 AM »
Quote from: csnew on November 23, 2017, 10:26:45 AM
The pitch taking spin is surely due to it being damp, shouldn’t continue to rag like that?


I think it will continue to turn , as i said , ball is exploding through the top already . It will harden /quicken up but still turn . Also there is perhaps a bit more texture in this gabba pitch then usual which should aid spin too.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1069 on: November 23, 2017, 10:42:46 AM »
Quote from: Kulli on November 23, 2017, 10:00:08 AM
England felt YJB was much better than Ali at batting with the tail.

Which is daft as he is also better batting with the top order.  You can't have your second best bat at seven.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1070 on: November 23, 2017, 10:44:09 AM »
Quote from: petehosk on November 23, 2017, 10:17:59 AM
The new ball is key! It's just been taken so Ali and Malan need to get through the first 20-30 overs with no more than 1 wicket down!
If Aus take 2 or more wickets with the new ball then England will not post a competitive score!

If the wicket gets a little quicker (as is expected) then that could help when England bowl? Plus if the wicket continues to take spin, then that has to help England especially as we do have Mo plus 2 "part time" spinners who can take wickets. If this happens then so much pressure will be on the likes of Warner and Smith!!


The wicket getting quicker will aid eng quicks to a degree but it will also help batsmens scoring rates . If eng can bat on it for most of tomorrow that will deny oz possibly the best batting conditions of the test .
Ali and root/malan will be vital in 4th innings for sure . Re spin in 4th inn lumping pressure on smith and warner....true , but handscomb is the next best player of spin after smith , so a big role for him to play .
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1071 on: November 23, 2017, 11:27:20 AM »
I knew we should have played 2 spinners!  :o :o :( :( :( :D :D :D

what is this GABA pitch, never seen anything like it. Slow, turner from day 1. Groundsman will be lynched if we win this.... lol.

Or is it down to an Adele concert as the Courier Mail seemed to make out.

Anyways, very even day i think and an excellent day of proper test cricket.

As ever 2nd new ball crucial.... if Oz gets wickets early i really think Starc could make a mess of our tail..... on the flip side the new ball always comes off the bat quicker etc...

I reckon 350 is a good score on this pitch though??

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1072 on: November 23, 2017, 12:21:47 PM »
Quote from: six and out on November 23, 2017, 11:27:20 AM

Or is it down to an Adele concert as the Courier Mail seemed to make out.



Trust Adele to pitch tamper  :D
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1073 on: November 23, 2017, 12:23:10 PM »
Quote from: csnew on November 23, 2017, 12:21:47 PM
Trust Adele to pitch tamper  :D

It'll be her rolling in the deep antics, no doubt...
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1074 on: November 23, 2017, 12:24:33 PM »
On the plus side, and i know it's early days, but its great to see stoneman, vince and malan looking the part. I was worried and still am to an extent, but they all look assured and confident. Good to see.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1075 on: November 23, 2017, 12:57:39 PM »
I don’t really like Adèle but I’m going to buy one of her albums

seriously quite pleased we have not collapsed in a heap

We do need a lot more runs thou. At least another hundred
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1076 on: November 23, 2017, 01:53:14 PM »
Quote from: Manormanic on November 23, 2017, 10:42:46 AM
Which is daft as he is also better batting with the top order.  You can't have your second best bat at seven.

On very recent form he is possibly our best batsman!! But our best 2 batsman in reality are Root and Cook! But they really need to find some form!!  :(
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1077 on: November 23, 2017, 02:18:20 PM »
Might the thinking be, with the batting order, that it is better to unsettle one bat than two?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1078 on: November 23, 2017, 02:21:18 PM »
Probably pretty even after 1st day well done Vince and Stoneman  particurlary having to play themselves in again after rain break  Lyon bowled well with turn and bounce Cummins bowled a few decent deliveries .                                                                     The first few overs today the second new ball is key for both teams.
Hopefully  Moeen doesnt do anything risky against the new ball.
Bairstow should bat before Ali.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1079 on: November 23, 2017, 02:26:47 PM »
Without getting carried away, we should perhaps actually be giving those responsible for team selection a little pat on back?
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