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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1290 on: November 26, 2017, 08:53:41 AM »
Massive missed opportunity in this test match is all I keep thinking about.

The positions we put ourselves in and then just couldn't capitalise on or did something stupid etc...

When you think about Vince getting run out on 83 when we were 145-2, we had AUS 76-4 and 209-7 in the 1st innings. Remember Smith scored 141* out of AUS 328.

I really think we need Wood. We need some firepower, some x factor rather than just throw it up there on a length. Ball has been useless and Woakes not much better.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1291 on: November 26, 2017, 08:59:08 AM »
[quote author=six and out link=topic=43023.msg693987#msg693987 date=1511686421

I really think we need Wood. We need some firepower, some x factor rather than just throw it up there on a length. Ball has been useless and Woakes not much better.
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Agree with this and would also add that Moeen's bowling was not threatening at all, totally outbowled by Lyon.  He needs to up his game.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1292 on: November 26, 2017, 09:10:49 AM »
Give Overton a go??
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1293 on: November 26, 2017, 09:11:53 AM »
40-50 aren’t gonna win you test matches.

Story of Old where we need to convert a start to make it a big hundred, until someone knuckles down and does so we’re exposing our midddle and lower order without having enough runs on the board.

Totally agree re bowing attack too, we need others to step up and bend their backs too.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1294 on: November 26, 2017, 09:16:26 AM »
I’ve tried not to say much during the test but now the result is set he’s what I’ve thought so far:

Day 1 was England’s day and although lost too many wickets when set a good and positive day for England

Day 2 other than the collapse and for me not squeezing the Aussies at 70odd-4 I think ge best way to Smith early on is hit off with the odd good sharp bouncer as he gets I’ve so much don’t change he line bouncer over odd will be perfect

Day 3 didn’t bow well enough to tail we should have had a 50 run lead that would have made all ththe difference and I think is where this game was lost

Day 4 didn’t bat well enough, Cook played the right shot for me just seemed to paddle rather than really go for it, vince for a good ball and I think we have found a good opener for Cook in stoneman (finally)

Going forward drop ball (should never have played) and pick Overton

Don’t change the batsmen at this stage

From before the test worrying about the batsmen it’s now the bowlers who are a concern

England have shown enough in this series to make me think we could nick 1-2 tests (Adelaide and mcg/scg) and wouldn’t be surprised with 3-2/2-2 result

Plenty of things to work on but by no means a write off tour!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1295 on: November 26, 2017, 09:26:55 AM »
alex..... bit early to be on the sauce mate?  :D
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1296 on: November 26, 2017, 09:39:45 AM »
Malan in the test side is just a joke.

Will be getting worse as the series goes on.

Tail is way too long
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1297 on: November 26, 2017, 09:54:24 AM »
If /when stokes flys over he would be cleared ....so would hales , so send him too .
Malan seems ok so far .
If no stokes , then sawp ball for wood and get some mongrel into your attack .
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1298 on: November 26, 2017, 10:02:32 AM »
A first test loss, which some of us saw coming is not the end of he world, we have competed for most of the match.

However....there is appearing a story Bairstow is up for assault off the pitch against one of the Aussie players

You can only hope this is not going to be true and it's a storm in a tea cup

My gut tells me this is trouble thou
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1299 on: November 26, 2017, 10:09:16 AM »
Quote from: ppccopener on November 26, 2017, 10:02:32 AM
A first test loss, which some of us saw coming is not the end of he world, we have competed for most of the match.

However....there is appearing a story Bairstow is up for assault off the pitch against one of the Aussie players

You can only hope this is not going to be true and it's a storm in a tea cup

My gut tells me this is trouble thou

Oh dear! Gingers and their aggression issues.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1300 on: November 26, 2017, 10:11:12 AM »
Quote from: ppccopener on November 26, 2017, 10:02:32 AM
A first test loss, which some of us saw coming is not the end of he world, we have competed for most of the match.

However....there is appearing a story Bairstow is up for assault off the pitch against one of the Aussie players

You can only hope this is not going to be true and it's a storm in a tea cup

My gut tells me this is trouble thou


Wow . I hope this is false , I'm so sick of aussies and poms missing ashes matches because they hit someone .
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1301 on: November 26, 2017, 10:12:02 AM »
If the bairstow story is true his bat will stay blank for a while longer .
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1302 on: November 26, 2017, 10:15:21 AM »
Quote from: manno on November 26, 2017, 09:26:55 AM
alex..... bit early to be on the sauce mate?  :D

Not after waking up to the score (also blind optimism is setting in)
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1303 on: November 26, 2017, 10:19:57 AM »
Quote from: Biggie Smalls on November 26, 2017, 10:12:02 AM
If the bairstow story is true his bat will stay blank for a while longer .

I do hope it's not true or overblown. We have had enough already with Stokes.

You can see now in this match why Stokes is so Important to us, our tail is too long and he is world class.

There's no news yet either despite rumours charges will be dropped. So far no news means he is not on the tour at all.


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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1304 on: November 26, 2017, 10:26:56 AM »
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