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[Ams4287]

I'm not sure why everyone goes on about Wood as the great white hope,he's not even that quick!

I don't know mate late 80s and skiddy is as quick as anything we have (only other would be plunkett but he's been pigeon holed as a limited overs bowler). Woods trouble has been fitness - hopefully he get overs under his belt for the lions and is able to crank it up.

[ppccopener]

I'm not sure why everyone goes on about Wood as the great white hope,he's not even that quick!

He is quick enough! Fitness is his problem and in a hard test match that's the problem.

[InternalTraining]

Whoa fellas! Match is not over yet. Who knows, the England bowlers may pull a rabbit out of the hat tomorrow (today). I am hoping for a tight finish! Vive Le Test Cricket!!!!!!

[six and out]

Woakes and ball did not bowl very well in this match hence your point Root had to bowl 20 odd overs and he kept going back to anderson and broad as they are our two best.

Overton I can't see changing much on these wicketS, you need dead accurate or pace or spin to trouble anyone.

Adelaide may suit us a bit better and we did play well for some of the match.

But we need runs to defend, nothing we can do about Stokes not being there we have to make he most of it.

If we could I think we would play two spinners, but that could mean even more work for our best seamers.

I think myself we are stuck we it, Woakes needs to make a contribution with the bat we cannot lengthen the tail any more.

I suppose....ballance coming in could be an option. Not going to be popular that suggestion I don't think and we would have to drop a bowler.

I still think myself we can get a result on this tour. All is not lost. 

Wood has pace, on a quick track if he is fit could cause problems, as you say thou it has to be short bursts otherwise he will end up medium pace as well.

Adelaide may well be our best chance of winning but the last D/N test there vs S.A. the scores were very much like this test, 3 batters got 100's, the Kookaburra pink ball doesn't do as much as the Dukes one.

I really can't believe I am going to say this but if our 4th seamer isn't up to it and the tail is too long then perhaps Ballance has to play at 6.

[enlightened]

Forget Stokes - even if the police action doesn't proceed the ECB should ban him for at least the duration of the Ashes.
 

[Seniorplayer]

Adelaide may well be our best chance of winning but the last D/N test there vs S.A. the scores were very much like this test, 3 batters got 100's, the Kookaburra pink ball doesn't do as much as the Dukes one.

I really can't believe I am going to say this but if our 4th seamer isn't up to it and the tail is too long then perhaps Ballance has to play at 6.

On the basis of how our  third and fourth bowled in this test  it wouldn't be a bad move trouble is can England rely on there  third seamer to step up if he does not   and Ballance  does play at six it's  going to be tough on Anderson and Broad.

[sanredrose]

If this is true... you have to ask why it is coming out now. It happened 3 weeks ago.

Bancroft and Bairstow exchanged words during England's second innings. This incident stirred up the pot and news articles are reported along those lines. This is all puff piece and won't go any further. Stoneman is a newbie but he is more calm, composed and treated Oz bowlers comments/actions with no-response. Bairstow can learn a thing or two from Stoneman.

[csnew]

A bit of well saved press to disrupt the team...

[Woodyspin]

Forget Stokes - even if the police action doesn't proceed the ECB should ban him for at least the duration of the Ashes.

For what going out? Ban all of them then... Bored of people making out their the perfect specimen and put no foot wrong.

[skip1973]

For what going out? Ban all of them then... Bored of people making out their the perfect specimen and put no foot wrong.

You think the footage is a good look for young cricketers?   Like it or not these players are held to a higher standard than Joe Public and paid accordingly.

[sanredrose]

173/0 => This will hurt Root more than England's second innings collapse. Bowling needs to step up and respond. Batting first England did a decent job, but the inability to keep up pressure apart from Broad/Anderson seems to be hurting England the most.

[InternalTraining]

Frack!

[Biggie Smalls]

Bancroft and Bairstow exchanged words during England's second innings. This incident stirred up the pot and news articles are reported along those lines. This is all puff piece and won't go any further. Stoneman is a newbie but he is more calm, composed and treated Oz bowlers comments/actions with no-response. Bairstow can learn a thing or two from Stoneman.

In post match abc radio interview Bayliss was asked if Bairstow headbutted Bancroft , he said "well , you'd have to ask Johnny about that but he did say there was absolutely no malice in it and it was blown way out of proportion " .

[Biggie Smalls]

England are still every chance to win at adelaide . Personally,  from an aussie perspective,  I'd like to see a traditional red ball adelaide pitch and 'stuff the consequences' but that definitely won't  (and shouldn't) happen .
People are saying Wood isn't that quick . Well yes and no , but he has mongrel and england need that more than Balls powder puff rubbish -he was bowling 120 odd kmph half trackers at one stage (a lot of us face more difficult bowling then that ! ). Perhaps Wood can not only be used in short bursts but be the guy who tries to bomb out the aussie tail .
I'd keep  Woakes in the side because he should be suited to Adelaide and if he bowls well there hecan take some confidence into the rest of the series . Also , you need to shorten the tail as much as possible .
Ali needs his finger to come good and needs a heap of overs under his belt in the nets . When he gets more revs on the ball he can flight it whilst dragging his length back a touch and then he looks really good . Its when he bowls too full that he will be punished on these wickets .
Root was asked if this felt like a 10 wicket loss and he said no because england played really well for the first 3 days although they should have got 400+ in the first innings and should have got oz out for 150-200 in the first innings.  Well , to me , thats all the more reason why this should feel exactly like a 10 wicket defeat .

[Shinpathy]

This English batting lineup doesn't look like it's able to score 300+

If only Root and Cook gets going there is a possibility but if both are out cheaply then 200+ is hard