Topic: Ashes 2017-18 (Read 425735 times)

iand123 · « **Reply #1455 on:** November 30, 2017, 01:25:06 PM »

Quote from: csnew on November 30, 2017, 11:35:46 AM

Odd that Anderson is questioning bouncers with the ump. Just going to get more in the next test now. Seen plenty england do the same to other sides

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42179783

This does seem very odd, a tactic to deflect some attention away from Bairstow and his headbutt/handshake?

golders · « **Reply #1456 on:** November 30, 2017, 01:32:59 PM »

Heard on the radio that the Aussies bowled five bumpers in an over at Ball- surely that is excessive?

41.6 Bowling of dangerous and unfair short pitched deliveries

41.6.1 The bowling of short pitched deliveries is dangerous if the bowler�s end umpire considers that, taking into consideration the skill of the striker, by their speed, length, height and direction they are likely to inflict physical injury on him/her. The fact that the striker is wearing protective equipment shall be disregarded.

All taken from :

https://www.lords.org/mcc/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-41-unfair-play/

golders · « **Reply #1457 on:** November 30, 2017, 01:35:58 PM »

Quote from: golders on November 30, 2017, 01:32:59 PM

Heard on the radio that the Aussies bowled five bumpers in an over at Ball- surely that is excessive?

41.6 Bowling of dangerous and unfair short pitched deliveries

41.6.1 "The bowling of short pitched deliveries is dangerous if the bowler�s end umpire considers that, taking into consideration the skill of the striker, by their speed, length, height and direction they are likely to inflict physical injury on him/her. The fact that the striker is wearing protective equipment shall be disregarded. "

It goes on to say that the delivery can be called a no ball.

All taken from :

https://www.lords.org/mcc/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-41-unfair-play/

Perhaps this is a clever move from Anderson to not only bring it to the attention of the umpires,but also the media- meaning the umps will be under pressure to act. Good work Jimmy!

jamielsn15 · « **Reply #1458 on:** November 30, 2017, 02:01:49 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on November 30, 2017, 12:30:34 PM

The third one's a no-ball?

You're right. Why give away a run when he's gonna get pegged in single figures anyway. Starc et al would have a field day with him...

Number4 · « **Reply #1459 on:** November 30, 2017, 02:04:19 PM »

Quote from: golders on November 30, 2017, 01:35:58 PM

Perhaps this is a clever move from Anderson to not only bring it to the attention of the umpires,but also the media- meaning the umps will be under pressure to act. Good work Jimmy!

Did you actually watch the match? The tactic of bowling short pitched deliveries to Smith must have gone unnoticed. Body line was mentioned at one point

golders · « **Reply #1460 on:** November 30, 2017, 02:08:59 PM »

Quote from: Number4 on November 30, 2017, 02:04:19 PM

Did you actually watch the match? The tactic of bowling short pitched deliveries to Smith must have gone unnoticed. Body line was mentioned at one point

I didn't watch it all,no-was merely speculating as to why Anderson brought it up- is that ok by you?

manno · « **Reply #1461 on:** November 30, 2017, 03:24:17 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on November 29, 2017, 08:40:51 PM

A balanced and reflective article. Thanks for posting, very worth a read from the excellent George Dobell.

Ok. So to summarise the article for those that havnt already read it, and who dont wish to vomit up a little bit into their mouths. Heres the condensed version. So.......

- Some of the team actually have sisters and mothers, and families......... So ummm, yeah, that makes them super terrific boys! Righto.

- Its all Australias fault! OH OF COURSE IT IS!!!

- English players work tirelessly and thanklessly for countless charities!........ Mother Teresa, you should be embarrassed.

- Actually, its a bit ECBs fault too....... Thats right ecb. Tell all those nasty bullies to go away!!

- England choose to take the high road......... Harder to shine the ball if you go that road fellas

- STOKES MY HERO!....... for breaking a guys face? No wait. He was just "over-zealous". That almost sounds kinda cute

- Aussies have no morals or genuine interest in justice....... We convicts remember. Your fault!

- Violence amoung the Eng squad is an aberration........ Gee I sure hope those kicks to the head only felt like an aberration too....

- The media and the ECB should say more nice things about our lovely boys!

Balanced........? BALANCED?? The only thing missing from that article was a stirring rendition of god save the queen.

The more i read garbage like this the more i actually want Stokes to play.

Hurry up Adelaide!!!!

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #1462 on:** November 30, 2017, 03:48:48 PM »

Quote from: manno on November 30, 2017, 03:24:17 PM

Ok. So to summarise the article for those that havnt already read it, and who dont wish to vomit up a little bit into their mouths. Heres the condensed version. So.......

- Some of the team actually have sisters and mothers, and families......... So ummm, yeah, that makes them super terrific boys! Righto.

- Its all Australias fault! OH OF COURSE IT IS!!!

- English players work tirelessly and thanklessly for countless charities!........ Mother Teresa, you should be embarrassed.

- Actually, its a bit ECBs fault too....... Thats right ecb. Tell all those nasty bullies to go away!!

- England choose to take the high road......... Harder to shine the ball if you go that road fellas

- STOKES MY HERO!....... for breaking a guys face? No wait. He was just "over-zealous". That almost sounds kinda cute

- Aussies have no morals or genuine interest in justice....... We convicts remember. Your fault!

- Violence amoung the Eng squad is an aberration........ Gee I sure hope those kicks to the head only felt like an aberrWation too....

- The media and the ECB should say more nice things about our lovely boys!

Balanced........? BALANCED?? The only thing missing from that article was a stirring rendition of god save the queen.

The more i read garbage like this the more i actually want Stokes to play.

Hurry up Adelaide!!!!

Not god save the queen it's land of hope and glory.

manno · « **Reply #1463 on:** November 30, 2017, 03:57:50 PM »

Neither of those on offer here in aus.

ppccopener · « **Reply #1464 on:** November 30, 2017, 04:55:26 PM »

Quote from: manno on November 30, 2017, 03:24:17 PM

Ok. So to summarise the article for those that havnt already read it, and who dont wish to vomit up a little bit into their mouths. Heres the condensed version. So.......

- Some of the team actually have sisters and mothers, and families......... So ummm, yeah, that makes them super terrific boys! Righto.

- Its all Australias fault! OH OF COURSE IT IS!!!

- English players work tirelessly and thanklessly for countless charities!........ Mother Teresa, you should be embarrassed.

- Actually, its a bit ECBs fault too....... Thats right ecb. Tell all those nasty bullies to go away!!

- England choose to take the high road......... Harder to shine the ball if you go that road fellas

- STOKES MY HERO!....... for breaking a guys face? No wait. He was just "over-zealous". That almost sounds kinda cute

- Aussies have no morals or genuine interest in justice....... We convicts remember. Your fault!

- Violence amoung the Eng squad is an aberration........ Gee I sure hope those kicks to the head only felt like an aberration too....

- The media and the ECB should say more nice things about our lovely boys!

Balanced........? BALANCED?? The only thing missing from that article was a stirring rendition of god save the queen.

The more i read garbage like this the more i actually want Stokes to play.

Hurry up Adelaide!!!!

Mate your hysterical
Are you the same dude who replied to one of my posts with �calm down�

Biggie Smalls · « **Reply #1465 on:** November 30, 2017, 04:55:38 PM »

Quote from: manno on November 30, 2017, 03:24:17 PM

Ok. So to summarise the article for those that havnt already read it, and who dont wish to vomit up a little bit into their mouths. Heres the condensed version. So.......

- Some of the team actually have sisters and mothers, and families......... So ummm, yeah, that makes them super terrific boys! Righto.

- Its all Australias fault! OH OF COURSE IT IS!!!

- English players work tirelessly and thanklessly for countless charities!........ Mother Teresa, you should be embarrassed.

- Actually, its a bit ECBs fault too....... Thats right ecb. Tell all those nasty bullies to go away!!

- England choose to take the high road......... Harder to shine the ball if you go that road fellas

- STOKES MY HERO!....... for breaking a guys face? No wait. He was just "over-zealous". That almost sounds kinda cute

- Aussies have no morals or genuine interest in justice....... We convicts remember. Your fault!

- Violence amoung the Eng squad is an aberration........ Gee I sure hope those kicks to the head only felt like an aberration too....

- The media and the ECB should say more nice things about our lovely boys!

Balanced........? BALANCED?? The only thing missing from that article was a stirring rendition of god save the queen.

The more i read garbage like this the more i actually want Stokes to play.

Hurry up Adelaide!!!!

Yeah dobell's article seemed very much in the 'apologist' vein to me . He's got friendly ties to the england camp so I'm sure he legit believes they are good blokes and the culture is good ( ie not a drinking /violent culture). I'm pretty sure they are mostly decent blokes and it's not a violent culture . Excessive drinking culture ? How would i know ? But, the article does seem quite imbalanced.....which distracts from some of the good points it brings up .
Something I've been pondering lately - if we are not to judge stokes prematurely as being a thug , then surely we can't judge him prematurely as being a 'hero' either ?

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #1466 on:** November 30, 2017, 05:37:10 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on November 29, 2017, 08:40:51 PM

A balanced and reflective article. Thanks for posting, very worth a read from the excellent George Dobell.

Without a doubt worth a read a considered astute article

jonny77 · « **Reply #1467 on:** November 30, 2017, 07:16:56 PM »

Quote from: manno on November 30, 2017, 03:24:17 PM

Ok. So to summarise the article for those that havnt already read it, and who dont wish to vomit up a little bit into their mouths. Heres the condensed version. So.......

- Some of the team actually have sisters and mothers, and families......... So ummm, yeah, that makes them super terrific boys! Righto.

- Its all Australias fault! OH OF COURSE IT IS!!!

- English players work tirelessly and thanklessly for countless charities!........ Mother Teresa, you should be embarrassed.

- Actually, its a bit ECBs fault too....... Thats right ecb. Tell all those nasty bullies to go away!!

- England choose to take the high road......... Harder to shine the ball if you go that road fellas

- STOKES MY HERO!....... for breaking a guys face? No wait. He was just "over-zealous". That almost sounds kinda cute

- Aussies have no morals or genuine interest in justice....... We convicts remember. Your fault!

- Violence amoung the Eng squad is an aberration........ Gee I sure hope those kicks to the head only felt like an aberration too....

- The media and the ECB should say more nice things about our lovely boys!

Balanced........? BALANCED?? The only thing missing from that article was a stirring rendition of god save the queen.

The more i read garbage like this the more i actually want Stokes to play.

Hurry up Adelaide!!!!

I'm not sure he's saying England players are beyond reproach and all angels, just that the Stokes incident was isolated. Although I don't condone Stokes actions, I also don't condone homophobic behaviour if this is what caused him to react (two guys came forward and reported this was the case, they called him the 'hero' which is why the reporter uses this term I think).

The Aussie media overdid it with Bairstow, it wasn't a headbutt and to have a go at the guy and insinuate this constitutes a drinking culture in the squad and a history of violence is a little far fetched and damaging to guys who are there to just play cricket. I agree with his point that the ECB and Strauss should have backed Bairstow a bit more, as the Aussies would probably if it had been one of theirs. Instead they probably played into the Aussies hands by almost agreeing to there being a problem, even if there isn't. Just my opinion obviously

FattusCattus · « **Reply #1468 on:** November 30, 2017, 07:46:23 PM »

OMG - best thing England can do is stop sending players out to give vapid sound bites and interviews to a rabid media and let their cricket do the talking.

I feel England have too much to say and a bit of action would speak louder than words.

Whispering Death · « **Reply #1469 on:** November 30, 2017, 07:55:38 PM »

Will England admit they�ve got the squad wrong, realise Moeen is struggling and call up Jack Leach from the lions??

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