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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1680 on: December 04, 2017, 03:10:59 PM »

He's just a flat track/ pavement bully.

ain't we all, if given the chance.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1681 on: December 04, 2017, 03:16:44 PM »

Hales was never under investigation, he was a voluntary witness...

There's also the minor issue of CCTV footage of Stokes battering the bloke who ended up with a fractured eye socket

I presumed he was under investigation since he was in the same cctv footage booting somebody, could easily have caused a broken rib, punctured a lung. Situational ethics shouldn't have meant Hales avoided investigation.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1682 on: December 04, 2017, 03:32:34 PM »

Definitely was under investigation - "Alex Hales will now be considered for England selection, following confirmation that he is no longer a suspect in relation to an incident in Bristol in September."



I must have misinterpreted something I read.

BBC article clearly states he was "not arrested, but interviewed under caution".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42222983

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1683 on: December 04, 2017, 03:54:52 PM »

I must have misinterpreted something I read.

BBC article clearly states he was "not arrested, but interviewed under caution".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42222983

Ignore me... :-[


Article states both Stokes and Hales are set to be named in the ODI squad and Hales as been cleared to be considered for selection
« Last Edit: December 04, 2017, 06:09:38 PM by Seniorplayer »
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1684 on: December 04, 2017, 04:04:05 PM »

Article states both Stokes and Hales have been named in the ODI squad and Hales as been cleared to be considered for selection


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42222983
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England batsman Alex Hales will not face criminal charges over an incident outside a nightclub in Bristol in September and is available for selection, the England and Wales Cricket Board says.

He had been with all-rounder Ben Stokes, who was arrested on suspicion of causing actual bodily harm.

Hales, 28, was not arrested but was interviewed under caution by police and was not considered for selection.

He could still be punished by the ECB.

The ECB's internal disciplinary process is on hold until any criminal proceedings against Stokes are concluded.

"Alex Hales will now be considered for England selection," the ECB said in a statement.

Hales is a one-day and T20 specialist, who last played Test cricket in August 2016 and could return for the limited-overs leg of England's tour of Australia.

England will play a five-game one-day series against Australia in January, before a triangular Twenty20 series against New Zealand and Australia in February.

The ECB has also allowed Hales to play in the inaugural T20 Cricket League in Dubai from 21 to 24 December.

What happened in Bristol?

Stokes was arrested after a night out that followed England's victory over West Indies in the third one-day international.

Video footage emerged which allegedly showed him in a brawl in the early hours of the morning.

A man suffered a fractured eye socket in the incident on 25 September.

In the aftermath, Hales, who voluntarily helped police with their inquiries, was left out of the fourth ODI along with Stokes.

The ECB then announced Stokes and Hales would not be considered for selection until further notice.

On 29 November, Avon and Somerset Police said it had completed its investigation and sent the findings to the Crown Prosecution Service to decide if Stokes would be charged.

With a decision not to be made for several weeks, Stokes seems unlikely to play in England's current Ashes series in Australia.

However, he can play domestic cricket in any country and signed for Canterbury last week after travelling to New Zealand to visit his family.


Where does it say Stokes is in the ODI squad? ???
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1685 on: December 04, 2017, 06:01:38 PM »

Different article  Cam Guardian online
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1686 on: December 04, 2017, 07:05:17 PM »

Different article  Cam Guardian online

Cheers mate

Still keeping my fingers crossed he makes at least part of the tour then!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1687 on: December 04, 2017, 07:18:39 PM »

Someone with character needed - I'd be flying in big Samit Patel if we want a change, bring him in for Ali if Ali can't bowl properly.

Ali who is England's top scorer of the series so far?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1688 on: December 04, 2017, 07:49:56 PM »

Crikey, where'd England get that movement from?

Overton batted well, shame the 'batters' didn't turn up to help

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1689 on: December 04, 2017, 08:02:10 PM »

I'm not going to bang the drum for Woakes any longer, I'm not saying we are going to win I'm not saying we are even going to get a draw. I respect everyone on the forums opinion apart from that South Africa bloke who wound everybody up  :)

Woakes for 30 odd it's not a hundred but surely now it can be seen how Woakes and Overton batted just showed a little bit of fight and we just got some momentum going our way for a while.

It's not much but that's why CW is rated by England, I actually thought he showed better technique batting 8 than some of the top order.

Then chips in with a couple of wickets. It's not massive contributions but it is significant.
Overton showed he can bat too-and we are going to need these runs down the order.

I like James Vince and Malan, but I'm not putting any money on them batting for long.

Vince needs tighten up outside off-quality bowlers will put it there 'all day long' to use an off used club phrase.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1690 on: December 04, 2017, 09:17:34 PM »

I'm not going to bang the drum for Woakes any longer, I'm not saying we are going to win I'm not saying we are even going to get a draw. I respect everyone on the forums opinion apart from that South Africa bloke who wound everybody up  :)

Woakes for 30 odd it's not a hundred but surely now it can be seen how Woakes and Overton batted just showed a little bit of fight and we just got some momentum going our way for a while.

It's not much but that's why CW is rated by England, I actually thought he showed better technique batting 8 than some of the top order.


Then chips in with a couple of wickets. It's not massive contributions but it is significant.
Overton showed he can bat too-and we are going to need these runs down the order.

I like James Vince and Malan, but I'm not putting any money on them batting for long.

Vince needs tighten up outside off-quality bowlers will put it there 'all day long' to use an off used club phrase.
Agree totally it's a pity it took CW one and half test matches to pitch the ball up and  realise in OZ if you bowl short batsman stay back and whack you to the boundary.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1691 on: December 04, 2017, 09:54:36 PM »

The two problems are, we are reliant on seam movement and swing, and our so called batters are struggling with Lyons turn and 90mph bowling

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1692 on: December 04, 2017, 09:59:32 PM »

The two problems are, we are reliant on seam movement and swing, and our so called batters are struggling with Lyons turn and 90mph bowling

Stop being so negative/realistic!!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1693 on: December 04, 2017, 10:45:19 PM »

The two problems are, we are reliant on seam movement and swing, and our so called batters are struggling with Lyons turn and 90mph bowling

The real problem is we have only got half a batting line up and the ones we need to perform are struggling.  Our bowling attack is fantastic at home where the ball swings and seams, but we lack pace for the Australian pitches.  Why any of us thought we could win in Australia with such a poor batting line up is beyond me.  The answer is to send @Northern monkey, he would wack a few more that Vince will
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1694 on: December 04, 2017, 11:21:31 PM »

Took your bowlers over 400 balls to remove Smith. They could only manage 10 wickets at the gabba. 12 so far here. Id be more worried about your bowling.
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