Topic: Ashes 2017-18 (Read 426078 times)

rickjames · « **Reply #1770 on:** December 05, 2017, 12:45:29 PM »

Still laughing

northernboy1987 · « **Reply #1771 on:** December 05, 2017, 01:08:44 PM »

Quote from: Buzz on December 05, 2017, 11:55:32 AM

Note to England fans.
The game will be over as a contest when we wake up tomorrow.
Don't waste your hope

Although Woakes at 6 is inspired...!

@Buzz Stop being so bloody realistic will you! What happened to stiff upper lip, bulldog spirit and all that

ppccopener · « **Reply #1772 on:** December 05, 2017, 01:17:08 PM »

Anderson clearly peed off with the batters not getting enough runs hits a 50 to see us home

I might be dreaming but without hope as a fan we ain�t gone anything

Come on England!

Biggie Smalls · « **Reply #1773 on:** December 05, 2017, 02:09:29 PM »

From here I'm actually thinking eng are more likely ...unless lyon plays a blinder .
New ball is 20 overs away, enough time for the batsmen to play themselves in .
By the time the night session comes around the game will likely be over either way .

Kulli · « **Reply #1774 on:** December 05, 2017, 02:17:30 PM »

Barring an England collapse in the early overs of the day the 2nd new ball will probably decide the game.

if England can add say 50 before the new ball, without losing more than 1-2 wickets. Then surviving the new ball would see them very well positioned to chase down the target.

Still much rather be in Australia's position. Would give England maybe a 1 in 5 chance.

Shinpathy · « **Reply #1775 on:** December 05, 2017, 02:24:31 PM »

Malan has guts I have to give him that, although he lacks skill.

Vince is just embarrassing.

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #1776 on:** December 05, 2017, 02:46:02 PM »

Quote from: Shinpathy on December 05, 2017, 02:24:31 PM

Malan has guts I have to give him that, although he lacks skill.

What I'd give to lack skill the same way Dawid Malan does...

ppccopener · « **Reply #1777 on:** December 05, 2017, 02:52:01 PM »

He has surprised me for sure malan.
And at test level guts could be more important

I like Vince but I think sir Geoffrey calls this type of batsmen million dollar players

InternalTraining · « **Reply #1778 on:** December 05, 2017, 03:00:32 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on December 05, 2017, 02:52:01 PM

I like Vince but I think sir Geoffrey calls this type of batsmen million dollar players

What does that mean? He is a prima donna? Difficult?

Vince has great technique and I think he was mentored by Gary Palmer but I could be wrong about that.

Rob580 · « **Reply #1779 on:** December 05, 2017, 03:12:14 PM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on December 05, 2017, 03:00:32 PM

Vince has great technique

See Steve Smith as to why it doesn't matter.

springbok45 · « **Reply #1780 on:** December 05, 2017, 03:16:03 PM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on December 05, 2017, 03:00:32 PM

What does that mean? He is a prima donna? Difficult?

Vince has great technique and I think he was mentored by Gary Palmer but I could be wrong about that.

More as in luxury item, looks good and flashy but lacks substance underneath.

golders · « **Reply #1781 on:** December 05, 2017, 03:22:47 PM »

Since when does being extremely fallible outside the off stump=having a good technique?
Vince is extremely frustrating,he looks good but is the classic 'flatters to deceive' cricketer.
Having said that,he got a pretty 80 in the first test,and being a right-hander and with no viable alternatives,has probably earned some credit in the bank.
I really hope he proves us all wrong as like nothing more than a Billy the comeback kid!

I'm sure I've heard or seen it said before somewhere,but...

Tomorrow morning,the first hour is crucial!

InternalTraining · « **Reply #1782 on:** December 05, 2017, 03:27:35 PM »

Quote from: Rob580 on December 05, 2017, 03:12:14 PM

See Steve Smith as to why it doesn't matter.

No. Here is why: 1. Smith has developed his technique to suit his hand-eye coordination and, most importantly, to compensate for his weaknesses so he can score runs - anybody who has played cricket and has an peculiar batting style/technique will vouch for this; 2. As a general rule, Smith's technique would not work for all batsmen simply because they don't share his weaknesses. Vince's batting technique is very clean and can be adapted by any player.

Rob580 · « **Reply #1783 on:** December 05, 2017, 03:59:05 PM »

It unfortunately cannot be adapted for Vince.

Good technique is not the be all and end all, plenty of aesthetically pleasing players have been heavily outscored by those who have a less than traditional technique, but have the requisite application and fortitude. It's easy to be suckered in by the assumption that a 'pretty' batsman is a better batsman. Who would you rather have in your team, Graeme Smith & Steve Smith or Ian Bell & Shaun Marsh?

It's more about what you've got between your ears than how nicely you hit a cover drive.

In the words of Graham Gooch, 'You're not a batsman, you're a run scorer'

FattusCattus · « **Reply #1784 on:** December 05, 2017, 04:30:48 PM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on December 05, 2017, 03:00:32 PM

Vince has great technique and I think he was mentored by Gary Palmer but I could be wrong about that.

He tees off more like he was mentored by Arnold Palmer!

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