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[manno]

Truth be i dont know what you eat for breakfast. Not sure how much of an appetite you had this morning anyway.

Regardless, commentators, both english and australian have remarked how familiar the gabba should have been to the away side. Bordering on un-Australian. And even Adelaide in its uniqueness was far from traditional. Bring the duke over, bring some rain and grey sky while your at it. Class above? Not sure i used that language. Maybe they just made more runs and took more wickets. Thats all. And of course we are less competitive over there than you are, but we are more competitive over there than you are over here. Whatever you make of that is up to you.

[Biggie Smalls]

In regards to home conditions and who is really a better side - if england manage to win a game or two I'll agree that it's basically even . But if a team regularly loses 5-0 away they cant be considered 'basically the same' as a side who loses 2-3 or 1-3 , can they ?
At the moment i think oz would beat eng on a few more types of tracks than eng would beat oz , although i dont think there's a massive gap or anything like that . Both teams fragility with the bat will always result in a fair few close contests .

[six and out]

I really can't believe there hasn't been more talk on here, or elsewhere about Root's decision to bowl 1st.

Maybe because we played so badly it is masking it.... that it just simply didn't matter.

If it hadn't rained and shortened the 2nd day - and the Oz bowlers lost the chance to bowl in the night conditions - this match wouldn't have gotten to day 5, i really don't think Root actually trusts his fellow batters to bat a day and a half. Otherwise surely you send out a strong message of we will bat 1st for a day and half and then give Jimmy etc... the best night conditions and scoreboard pressure to bowl the Aussies out. You saw what happened when we actually did that!

Anyways rant over 

What does everyone want to do for the next test??

No one really putting their hand up from the Lions - the 2 games they played -

https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/531328

https://www.ecb.co.uk/matches/7226

[Kulli]

I really can't believe there hasn't been more talk on here, or elsewhere about Root's decision to bowl 1st.

Maybe because we played so badly it is masking it.... that it just simply didn't matter.

If it hadn't rained and shortened the 2nd day - and the Oz bowlers lost the chance to bowl in the night conditions - this match wouldn't have gotten to day 5, i really don't think Root actually trusts his fellow batters to bat a day and a half. Otherwise surely you send out a strong message of we will bat 1st for a day and half and then give Jimmy etc... the best night conditions and scoreboard pressure to bowl the Aussies out. You saw what happened when we actually did that!

Anyways rant over 

What does everyone want to do for the next test??

No one really putting their hand up from the Lions - the 2 games they played -

https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/531328

https://www.ecb.co.uk/matches/7226

In the interests of fairness, england also only got 1 over with the new nut on day one rather than 10, due to rain.

[Seniorplayer]

England lost this on the afternoon of the first day England bowled poorly after Anderson and Broad  had finish After putting Aus in Root knows he was let down.
Also give the Aus bowlers some credit when the pitch was flat there extra pace made all the difference.
Also Lyon managed  to get turn pace and bounce.

[InternalTraining]

I really can't believe there hasn't been more talk on here, or elsewhere about Root's decision to bowl 1st.

I did and thought that the decision was a poor one. Root is a great batsman but doesn't seem to have instincts of a good skipper. We shall see more on that as the Ashes progress.

[golders]

If we had batted first in those conditions,England would have been rolled for sub 200,don't think the toss made an iota of difference. Root was let down by his bowlers.The only mistake he made was not bowling Anderson when we had the Aussies 7 down on day one. I don't blame him that he has zero confidence in his side's batting either!

[adb club cricketer]

I wonder why always there is talk about finding a batting partner to Cook, when they should be actually talking about Cook himself. The guy can't handle good pace/swing bowling and good spin either. A youngster would have performed as much as Cook did or maybe even better.

England should dare to drop Cook based on current form and let him back into the team based on performance.

Regarding Stokes, he must be such a dumb cricketer to let his own behavior harm his blossoming career. 

[brokenbat]

KP instead of Malan in this lineup.....

[Biggie Smalls]

KP instead of Malan in this lineup.....

As an aussie i think that's a terrible idea !

Cook , stoneman , hammeed , root , kp , stokes , bairstow , ali , woakes, broad,  anderson. .....starts to look good again doesn't it ?

[alexhilly1492]

As an aussie i think that's a terrible idea !

Cook , stoneman , hammeed , root , kp , stokes , bairstow , ali , woakes, broad,  anderson. .....starts to look good again doesn't it ?

Hameed, stoneman, root, bairstow, stokes, malan, ali, woakes, overton, broad, anderson

i wouldnt be surprised if we see something like this in the next 12 months and its not bad either!  (stokes to be replaced by curran or ball depending on cps verdict/trial)

[Calzehbhoy]

Hameed, stoneman, root, bairstow, stokes, malan, ali, woakes, overton, broad, anderson

I'd be surprised if we see much more of Overton this series let alone in the summer. Don't think Root rates his that highly with the ball as shown by his couple of overs in the second innings.

[Seniorplayer]

I'd be surprised if we see much more of Overton this series let alone in the summer. Don't think Root rates his that highly with the ball as shown by his couple of overs in the second innings.

Dunno   This was his first test based on these two tests there's little to choose between him and woakes with both bat and ball

[ppccopener]

Root will always go to broad and Jimmy when things get tough. Overton seemed to do ok and did pitch the ball up a bit further-we were too short in the first innings. Woakes got 4 in the second innings which was pretty good.

We have relied on Mo as well and he is not fit and/or injured still. How many wickets he would get in Oz is debatable anyway, Lyon is bowling well he gets a bit more on the ball than Mo does.

I think myself if anyone on here is looking at the bowlers you are looking in the wrong place. It's the batting!

300 and even 250 is ok in England and not ok away....too many times our bowlers have bailed us out, it caught up with us in India and same here.

What changes? None I can see, Bairstow 6, Ali 7 maybe....

Wood maybe if he is fit but it will be a desperate move is he is called up, he hasn't played a five day test for ages.

Root as captain is trying to stay in the game for as long as possible, an old well worn tactic for test matches, I don't blame him at all for bowling first, to me he has been let down a bit by the bowlers but mostly by batsmen not prepared to bat a long time

This exact reason may be why Ballance is on the tour, he does have some guts whatever anyone thinks of him.

[six and out]

For Perth - what i would like to see - but i know won't happen 

Cook
Stoneman
Root
Malan
Bairstow
Livingstone/Lawrence/Gubbins - a young RHB from the Lions
Foakes wk
Woakes
Overton/Wood
Broad
Anderson

Vince and Mo out - Lions RHB and Foakes in

Vince never was and never will be a Test no. 3 batter - Root should be batting 3, Bairstow higher and without the gloves. The new RHB from the Lions comes in at 6. We don't have anyone better on tour so why not give 1 of them a go. They need to be RH to combat Lyon.

Mo isn't fit to bowl - you can see he is getting no revs on the ball - and Lyon is all over him like a cheap suit when he bats. So Foakes comes in at 7 and takes the gloves.

Only other possible change is bring in Wood for some gas but i was impressed with Overton on debut so not sure.