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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1860 on: December 06, 2017, 08:01:21 PM »

I’d pick the same 11 and demand they grow a pair. Its best 11 available, Australia are not that much better than us, if at all. Just need to rise too the occasion. Deliver their skills at cruitial moments rather when they’re 200 behind.

Ali is best spinner we’ve got. No point in selecting a different spinner. If his unable to bowl in oz then we should pick another seamer.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1861 on: December 06, 2017, 08:18:15 PM »

I’d pick the same 11 and demand they grow a pair. Its best 11 available, Australia are not that much better than us, if at all. Just need to rise too the occasion. Deliver their skills at cruitial moments rather when they’re 200 behind.

Ali is best spinner we’ve got. No point in selecting a different spinner. If his unable to bowl in oz then we should pick another seamer.

Couldn't have said it better

I would argue that the extra 5mph from Aus seam attack makes a huge difference in Aus conditions but from the keeper up i think the teams are very equal. England boys need to front up and show some grit

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1862 on: December 06, 2017, 08:19:07 PM »

Root will always go to broad and Jimmy when things get tough. Overton seemed to do ok and did pitch the ball up a bit further-we were too short in the first innings. Woakes got 4 in the second innings which was pretty good.

We have relied on Mo as well and he is not fit and/or injured still. How many wickets he would get in Oz is debatable anyway, Lyon is bowling well he gets a bit more on the ball than Mo does.

I think myself if anyone on here is looking at the bowlers you are looking in the wrong place. It's the batting!

300 and even 250 is ok in England and not ok away....too many times our bowlers have bailed us out, it caught up with us in India and same here.

What changes? None I can see, Bairstow 6, Ali 7 maybe....

Wood maybe if he is fit but it will be a desperate move is he is called up, he hasn't played a five day test for ages.

Root as captain is trying to stay in the game for as long as possible, an old well worn tactic for test matches, I don't blame him at all for bowling first, to me he has been let down a bit by the bowlers but mostly by batsmen not prepared to bat a long time

This exact reason may be why Ballance is on the tour, he does have some guts whatever anyone thinks of him.

Don't forget though England still failed to take 20 wickets at times in conditions which suited there bowling that's why  on the first day Root  asked Aus  to have a bat.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1863 on: December 06, 2017, 08:24:02 PM »

Stokes 0/39 off 7 , 34 with the bat , in latest match vs Auckland.
In oz news , mitch marsh added to squad ( even though he only returned to bowling a couple weeks ago .
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1864 on: December 06, 2017, 08:32:00 PM »

I’d pick the same 11 and demand they grow a pair. Its best 11 available, Australia are not that much better than us, if at all. Just need to rise too the occasion. Deliver their skills at cruitial moments rather when they’re 200 behind.

Ali is best spinner we’ve got. No point in selecting a different spinner. If his unable to bowl in oz then we should pick another seamer.
Although  there's little difference in the batting the extra pace  plus the ability to  be  more consistent at putting the ball in the right areas gives  the OZ bowlers on Aus wickets the edge over England.

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1865 on: December 06, 2017, 08:50:08 PM »

Surely if the AUS attack is better then that means be default our batting needs to be better then the Aussies, being as good as them means we get beat.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1866 on: December 06, 2017, 08:58:55 PM »

Stokes 0/39 off 7 , 34 with the bat , in latest match vs Auckland.
In oz news , mitch marsh added to squad ( even though he only returned to bowling a couple weeks ago .

Could be the true saviour for England rather than Stokes?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1867 on: December 06, 2017, 09:00:07 PM »

I’d pick the same 11 and demand they grow a pair. Its best 11 available, Australia are not that much better than us, if at all. Just need to rise too the occasion. Deliver their skills at cruitial moments rather when they’re 200 behind.

Ali is best spinner we’ve got. No point in selecting a different spinner. If his unable to bowl in oz then we should pick another seamer.

This is a realistic post....in truth we don't have a huge pool of players sat in England or on the lions who are much better. I wish Wood like the rest of the forum was fit....I can't see it thou

At least half the forum had Hales in their team before the squad was picked, he may or may not of done any better. If you're playing him in front of Malan , well sorry, that won't work, Malan is proving he has something.

hales could counter attack....that's on the basis you think quality bowling can be slapped on tracks with pace and bounce.im not convinced at all.

The only player I think myself could of been part of the squad was Plunkett. He hits the deck hard, is a good fielder and can hold a bat. On Aussie pitches he might of got more out of it, to at least make them uncomfortable. Smith and Warner are quality,the rest of just ok

Totally agree there is not much between the teams.we are thou 0-2 down and won't come back. We just need to fight as hard as we can, away series are getting harder and harder to win-for all teams
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1868 on: December 06, 2017, 09:01:28 PM »

Surely if the AUS attack is better then that means be default our batting needs to be better then the Aussies, being as good as them means we get beat.

And that's what has happened
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1869 on: December 06, 2017, 09:56:43 PM »

I wonder why always there is talk about finding a batting partner to Cook, when they should be actually talking about Cook himself. The guy can't handle good pace/swing bowling and good spin either. A youngster would have performed as much as Cook did or maybe even better.

England should dare to drop Cook based on current form and let him back into the team based on performance.

Regarding Stokes, he must be such a dumb cricketer to let his own behavior harm his blossoming career.

You must be mad, can’t play good pace or swing? Or spin?? Has 11600 test runs with hundreds and double hundreds against Aus & SA who have the quickest test attacks of the last few years, hundreds against India & Sri Lanka, Pakistan away from Home and plenty of Home hundreds where the ball swings more than any other country.

Is he in great nick, no is he still one of the worlds best openers? Hell yes based on 11600 runs in 140 matches over nearly a decade.
The whole England batting line up is at the moment pants but you are mad thinking about dropping Cook.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1870 on: December 06, 2017, 10:12:38 PM »

Cook would be the second name on the team sheet for me after Root

Mark butchers team for Perth, presuming Ali is fit to bowl.

Bowlers:unchanged

Batters: Malan to 3, Vince left out, Bairstow to 5 with Foakes keeping and batting before or after Woakes

Wonder if the selectors would do this?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1871 on: December 06, 2017, 10:15:02 PM »

Stokes named in ODI squad
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1872 on: December 06, 2017, 10:42:31 PM »

I'm surprised that Crane isn't being spoken of.Ali has two wickets and can't impart any action on the ball, presumably because he isn't fit.Overton looks a wholehearted gutsy cricketer,but isn't going to win test matches.Give the leggie a go!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1873 on: December 07, 2017, 06:11:30 AM »

You don't give someone a test cap just because they bowl leg-spin.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1874 on: December 07, 2017, 06:59:13 AM »

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