Topic: Ashes 2017-18 (Read 427407 times)

mo_town · « **Reply #1890 on:** December 07, 2017, 03:36:39 PM »

The Eng bowling wont be better than Aus bowling this series...

Eng are probably better off strengthening their batting line up. It would have been nice to try a different and aggressive approach. Have someone like Hales open the batting and try going after the bowling first up. The Aus quicks are quality but its worth a gamble.

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #1891 on:** December 07, 2017, 03:54:45 PM »

Quote from: mo_town on December 07, 2017, 03:36:39 PM

The Eng bowling wont be better than Aus bowling this series...

Eng are probably better off strengthening their batting line up. It would have been nice to try a different and aggressive approach. Have someone like Hales open the batting and try going after the bowling first up. The Aus quicks are quality but its worth a gamble.

Instead of doing that you may as well open with Root.
It would get him to the crease a couple of overs quicker but at least there wouldn't be 2 in the hutch...

Manormanic · « **Reply #1892 on:** December 07, 2017, 05:02:50 PM »

The two things England need to do (aside from bringing Stokes in and dropping this ridiculous suspension) are:

1. Get Bairstow up the order. He looks our best batsman and he has been stuck with the tail three times outta four.
2. Get some variety into the bowling attack. Four guys bowling at 80-84 is not the way to go.

Buzz · « **Reply #1893 on:** December 07, 2017, 05:41:30 PM »

Quote from: Manormanic on December 07, 2017, 05:02:50 PM

The two things England need to do (aside from bringing Stokes in and dropping this ridiculous suspension) are:

1. Get Bairstow up the order. He looks our best batsman and he has been stuck with the tail three times outta four.
2. Get some variety into the bowling attack. Four guys bowling at 80-84 is not the way to go.

All things we knew even before the squad was selected.
The selectors and management are very culpable here.

Plunkett should have been selected, for example.

Canners · « **Reply #1894 on:** December 07, 2017, 06:34:44 PM »

Get tymal mills in, a few short sharp spells of 90mph short stuff should do the trick

ppccopener · « **Reply #1895 on:** December 07, 2017, 06:38:24 PM »

Mills is a brown trouser stuff but he only bowls 4 overs at a time, I suppose it could be carnage while it lasted

2 day tests !

edge · « **Reply #1896 on:** December 07, 2017, 06:46:43 PM »

Absolutely bizarre that England have the chance of playing a tour game and only Moeen is playing from the test side. Understand about resting bowlers in between tests, but all the batsmen are feeling bang in form are they? Hard to say whether that means the top 7 spots are all safe or that it's all up for grabs if someone scores big.

ppccopener · « **Reply #1897 on:** December 07, 2017, 06:57:10 PM »

I'm not sure myself we can just draft in anyone from the Lions without being named in the original test squad(without and injury) but on the basis he rest of the forum think we can I'm going with it.

Thing is thou....if we did that :

It would be an admission the selectors got a couple of batsmen wrong originally and 2:

A batsman leapfrogs gaz ballance the selectors got it wrong X 2...
As in what is the point of Gaz being there(don't all reply to that at once)

Buzz · « **Reply #1898 on:** December 07, 2017, 07:50:53 PM »

Quote from: edge on December 07, 2017, 06:46:43 PM

Absolutely bizarre that England have the chance of playing a tour game and only Moeen is playing from the test side. Understand about resting bowlers in between tests, but all the batsmen are feeling bang in form are they? Hard to say whether that means the top 7 spots are all safe or that it's all up for grabs if someone scores big.

This is ridiculous, Cook, Vince and Malan should all play.

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #1899 on:** December 07, 2017, 07:51:49 PM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on December 06, 2017, 09:56:43 PM

You must be mad, can�t play good pace or swing? Or spin?? Has 11600 test runs with hundreds and double hundreds against Aus & SA who have the quickest test attacks of the last few years, hundreds against India & Sri Lanka, Pakistan away from Home and plenty of Home hundreds where the ball swings more than any other country.

Is he in great nick, no is he still one of the worlds best openers? Hell yes based on 11600 runs in 140 matches over nearly a decade.
The whole England batting line up is at the moment pants but you are mad thinking about dropping Cook.

I hope people can express their opinions here without fear of being branded mad or lunatic. Anyway, your response made me interested to dig up Cook's stats over last 5 years. This is what I found:

Inns Ave
in Australia     14     22
in Bangladesh     4     22.25
in England     64     45.26
in India     12 31.91
in New Zealand    5     38
in South Africa     8     23
in U.A.E.     5     90
in West Indies     6     53.6

The above table shows he has been quite bad in almost all major away countries, something which you wouldn't expect from someone who has made 11000 runs. Why would you want to have someone with a 22 avg. in Aus and SA as your 2nd option after Root, I am surprised, in a tour to Aus. No doubt there is great respect and love for the man who scores 11k career runs but unfortunately stats on recent form don't suggest he can help the team win. Given that he is senior member of the team it is even more important for him to show his performance, more so on difficult away tours.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #1900 on:** December 07, 2017, 07:57:43 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on December 07, 2017, 06:38:24 PM

Mills is a brown trouser stuff but he only bowls 4 overs at a time, I suppose it could be carnage while it lasted

2 day tests !

Yep it's a shame his back isn't upto five day tests.

six and out · « **Reply #1901 on:** December 07, 2017, 08:10:45 PM »

This is a hilarious article, perhaps the most optimistic ever written. I particularly liked the bit about whether Mason Crane actually exists.

http://www.thecricketer.com/default.aspx?pageid=1223&catid=71&topicid=43660

Northern monkey · « **Reply #1902 on:** December 07, 2017, 08:15:42 PM »

England need to find cooks replacement
If your looking at past performances and statistics etc, then we might as well bring kp back or flintoff

And I've never seen mills bowl his quicker delivery
Always seems to bowl his variations

And ballance? No
Hales? In tests no,,,(and don't get me started on what those two tools did on their night out and whether or not they deserve the chance to represent their country again)

Selectors have their work cut out

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #1903 on:** December 07, 2017, 08:26:28 PM »

Mark Wood in the two day match team.
Can he bowl himself into the third test maybe in place of Woakes 6 wickets from 2 two tests at nearly 40 runs each

Tailendfielder · « **Reply #1904 on:** December 07, 2017, 08:57:33 PM »

This northern chap talks some sence. I don�t think Wood is that good. We just seem to say players we�ve not seen for a while or ever (for England) are the answer to everything. No one seems to bring Woods bowling average for England up.

its taken some time to find Strauss�s replacement and their are not many openers we,ve not tried before. Leave Cook for now. Bad series or not.

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