Topic: Ashes 2017-18 (Read 407548 times)

Mr_Orange · « **Reply #2085 on:** December 14, 2017, 11:58:59 AM »

Quote from: ppccopener on December 14, 2017, 11:50:00 AM

He was born in roehampton-down the road from me

Gutsy knock today

Anyone else think Stoneman has done really well?
He�s an old fashioned opener and they were bowling quick on that track today

I think Stoneman looks the part. I don't think he's had as much go his way as he would've liked so far (good balls etc) and they were saying on TMS that's he's reminiscent of Carberry in that respect. Looks good but not quite had the luck to go with it.

He's not the very long term solution but I think he will be opening for England for the next 3-4 years. There's a 100 coming for him before the series is done I reckon.

Kulli · « **Reply #2086 on:** December 14, 2017, 12:16:22 PM »

I think Stoneman has done really well. They have a pretty deadly set of quicks and even tho8ugh he's looked a bit out of his depth at times he's not given his wicket away. If you can't have a gun opener that's the next best thing.

mo_town · « **Reply #2087 on:** December 14, 2017, 12:17:38 PM »

Quote from: Kulli on December 14, 2017, 11:45:33 AM

Surely they were in the first test too? Ball's 'proper' English isn't he?

He's certainly part English, unlike plenty of others in the past.

Still half Saffer by birth and played his first 1st class games there as a home player. His sister plays Hockey for them too I think.

Ahhhh..half Saffer! now it all makes sense

Chalkie · « **Reply #2088 on:** December 14, 2017, 01:29:54 PM »

I know a few here were critical of Strauss not being in Aus recently, this may go at least part of the way to explain it - although it does say he always planned to miss the 3rd test due to other commitments.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2017/12/13/andrew-strauss-miss-rest-ashes-tour-wife-diagnosed-cancer/

manno · « **Reply #2089 on:** December 14, 2017, 03:23:53 PM »

We still critical of the Stoneman decision?

Not naming any names.....

it's_a_pudding · « **Reply #2090 on:** December 14, 2017, 04:04:34 PM »

I wonder if we swapped the teams batsmen around how many the Aussies would score against their own attack. Agree with some of the others really enjoyed watching Stoneman bat throughout the series he will open for England for a while I suspect. Been disappointed with starc though going into the series he was the big threat and he has been underwhelming for me so far.

LateBloomer · « **Reply #2091 on:** December 14, 2017, 10:28:35 PM »

Brilliant final session from Bairstow and Malan. Need 500+ on day 2 and then to bowl well from the start. Absolutely belting track and lightening outfield

Whatever happens on the field the english fans were great throughout the day. Must make a difference to players hearing your supporters over the home fans

Stoneman should have been playing 3 years ago. The 50s would likely be 100s by this stage. But better late than never

Dont think the Australians bowled particularly badly, just a good track and we've turned up with the bat finally

sanredrose · « **Reply #2092 on:** December 14, 2017, 10:31:22 PM »

Don't lose a wicket in the first session, then 500 is likely!

ppccopener · « **Reply #2093 on:** December 14, 2017, 10:41:08 PM »

Quote from: LateBloomer on December 14, 2017, 10:28:35 PM

Brilliant final session from Bairstow and Malan. Need 500+ on day 2 and then to bowl well from the start. Absolutely belting track and lightening outfield

Whatever happens on the field the english fans were great throughout the day. Must make a difference to players hearing your supporters over the home fans

Stoneman should have been playing 3 years ago. The 50s would likely be 100s by this stage. But better late than never

Dont think the Australians bowled particularly badly, just a good track and we've turned up with the bat finally

With the amount of players we have tried since Strauss -Stoneman has been unlucky not to play earlier quite agree. he has always been a solid type of player and very consistent.
I asked earlier if others think he has played really well.....I think he has and looks the part, not a dasher but not everyone can be.

If Hameed fulfils his promise, some earlier comments this year for @petehosk could maybe be spot on-he does not have to open....as in if Hameed has the technique and temperament to open, then he def has it to bat 3 or maybe 4.....

sanredrose · « **Reply #2094 on:** December 14, 2017, 10:43:24 PM »

@ppccopener - Hameed would come in for Vince? Once Stokes gets back .. someone has to take the boot. I am wondering who will be kicked to include Hameed.

ppccopener · « **Reply #2095 on:** December 14, 2017, 11:13:06 PM »

Quote from: sanredrose on December 14, 2017, 10:43:24 PM

@ppccopener - Hameed would come in for Vince? Once Stokes gets back .. someone has to take the boot. I am wondering who will be kicked to include Hameed.

We..England...will only get to the level we want to be by having competition for places.Look at the side right now...if Vince was dropped who would play from the original squad-that's the way selection normally works-it would be Ballance...I like Ballance myself and Vince is a very good player. does he have the nous and technique to bat 3? I don't think he does myself.i don't think Ballance is top class either-good player thou.

Hameed at the moment is a punt on potential, any young player thou you just don't know.last year he hardly had any decent scores.

Stokes comes straight in. He's about the best we got.

we may also need a replacement for Cook although I hope he plays for a while longer yet myself

Hameed may have to wait....and may have to score County runs to get back. At some point thou young players have to come in

Jennings could be back also, England think he has something...again..a young player with potential.

If there is maximum availability then yes, a tough call who to leave out.

Biggie Smalls · « **Reply #2096 on:** December 15, 2017, 12:27:50 AM »

Quote from: it's_a_pudding on December 14, 2017, 04:04:34 PM

I wonder if we swapped the teams batsmen around how many the Aussies would score against their own attack. Agree with some of the others really enjoyed watching Stoneman bat throughout the series he will open for England for a while I suspect. Been disappointed with starc though going into the series he was the big threat and he has been underwhelming for me so far.

Starc has looked well below par....yet he's still taking bags of wickets , thats a sign of how dangerous he is . He always bowls a few unplayables even when he's not in rhythm /form .
I reckon since bancroft made a couple half centuries against nsw (with the same attack as oz in this test , made at the wacca too) , he is one that would make runs against them for sure . Also , smith and warner net against them in oz camps aswell as nsw camps , so they are very acclimated to batting against them , so may go ok too . So , there's at least 3 .

Biggie Smalls · « **Reply #2097 on:** December 15, 2017, 12:33:48 AM »

Great batting /partnership from bairstow and malan . Vindicates elevating Jonny to 6 .
This is a great chance for eng to get a win up . A session and a ahlf of good batting and some good new ball bowling and it's in the bag . If oz go bang bang with a couple early wickets it could easily come back to even stevens . A score of 400 is good , though maybe approx par , 450 and there's a lot of scoreboard pressure . However, it wouldnt surprise me if we see 450+ from bith teams in the first innings , from there a draw is almost certain .

Btw, what's with all the cook hate ? I think he has enough accumulated credit to have another english summer before the knives come out , surely ? I mean , geez , people may be right , maybe he is past it , but wait a while longer before ending a career like his .

Shinpathy · « **Reply #2098 on:** December 15, 2017, 01:01:53 AM »

Hameed would get absolutely destroyed by the short pitched bowling

Northern monkey · « **Reply #2099 on:** December 15, 2017, 03:12:14 AM »

Cmon bairstow , cummins giving some juicy half volleys outside off stick
Get that ton then push on fer a big un

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