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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2355 on: December 21, 2017, 06:59:24 AM »

Accusations are just that, there is proof in the Stokes issue. Don't see what kind of accusation it is makes a difference?

So to be clear - you are supporting Jarryd Hayne and dismissing this RAPE charge as unsubstantial.  A proud Australian that would condemn a man for a punch up outside a pub but support a man who plied a virgin with alcohol and then forced himself upon her. God save your (No Swearing Please) queen


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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2356 on: December 21, 2017, 07:37:46 AM »

So to be clear - you are supporting Jarryd Hayne and dismissing this RAPE charge as unsubstantial.  A proud Australian that would condemn a man for a punch up outside a pub but support a man who plied a virgin with alcohol and then forced himself upon her. God save your (No Swearing Please) queen

So that’s what happened?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2357 on: December 21, 2017, 08:10:18 AM »

Neither of them have been found guilty of anything. I suggest you all leave it at that.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2358 on: December 21, 2017, 06:13:55 PM »

Does anyone else here feel that Michael Vaughan appears to have a fair bit of influence over/regular contact with a lot of current England players.

He doesn't seem to mind ripping then a new one when it's furthering his punditry career, I wonder how players feel around him after some of the things he's said about them. Surely it's a conflict of interest to be so cosy to a lot of the players.

Graeme Swann = great bowler. Crap pundit.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2359 on: December 21, 2017, 09:13:15 PM »

So that’s what happened?

As reported in The Australian
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2360 on: December 21, 2017, 09:34:16 PM »

What do you guys expect Vaughan and Swann to do - tell you everything in the garden is rosy?

Have a word with yourselves - what do you think the ex-players on the media payroll were doing when they were  both still playing?

They are earning a living and neither of them are way off message in what they are saying.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2361 on: December 21, 2017, 10:03:13 PM »

Any bets on                                                                                                                                                                           Swanny to become Englands  spin bowling coach
Vaughan to become Englands batting coach.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2362 on: December 21, 2017, 10:36:16 PM »

Any bets on                                                                                                                                                                           Swanny to become Englands  spin bowling coach
Vaughan to become Englands batting coach.

Swan had a call from Strauss about the spin bowling coach role. He was asking his opinion on Mushy I think, I'll see if I can find the article

Edit - here it is

https://www.wisden.com/stories/graeme-swann-england-spin-coach-moeen-ali-saqlain-mushtaq
« Last Edit: December 21, 2017, 10:38:05 PM by WalkingWicket37 »
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2363 on: December 21, 2017, 11:15:05 PM »

So to be clear - you are supporting Jarryd Hayne and dismissing this RAPE charge as unsubstantial.  A proud Australian that would condemn a man for a punch up outside a pub but support a man who plied a virgin with alcohol and then forced himself upon her. God save your (No Swearing Please) queen


So this is where clowns go when there is no circus?

What a blatant troll.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2364 on: December 22, 2017, 12:33:26 AM »



So this is where clowns go when there is no circus?

What a blatant troll.

How offensive

The Australian press and public were all over Stokes for what he did, yet when one of their own commits what is in my eyes the scummiest crime in the world the outcry is far less

You may be good at sport but your morals are in the gutter
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2365 on: December 22, 2017, 02:12:02 AM »

How offensive

The Australian press and public were all over Stokes for what he did, yet when one of their own commits what is in my eyes the scummiest crime in the world the outcry is far less

You may be good at sport but your morals are in the gutter


Personally i havent followed the Hayne incident at all .... just going by your posts and the replies to them what i am getting from that is - stokes hasn't been charged , but there is evidence of him doing something ( and the possibility of a crime being committed was high enough for a police investigation to take place ) .
Hayne has had someone make an accusation against him ( as skip1973 said 'he said/she said' scenario ) , and there has been no other evidence /police investigation etc .
I think others are not saying that rape is a lesser crime than assault /g.b.h etc - I'm pretty sure no one here would suggest otherwise. Obviously , rape is far more insidious.  If something more comes of this then people here , and the oz media, would drag hayne through the coals ( case in point : mathew johns, a former rugby league player and tv personality,   a number of years ago was involved in an incident which resulted in him losing his job , reputation,  popularity amongst the public etc ....even though , from memory , no charges were laid ).
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2366 on: December 22, 2017, 02:14:34 AM »

How offensive

The Australian press and public were all over Stokes for what he did, yet when one of their own commits what is in my eyes the scummiest crime in the world the outcry is far less

You may be good at sport but your morals are in the gutter

Stokes is on camera clearly doing what everyone says he has done?
Hayne is vehemently denying the accusations and the details are clouded in speculation, call me old fashioned but I like to make sure someone is at least guilty before getting my keyboard battle gear out. Anyone with half a brain thinks that crimes of this nature are vile and unspeakably evil. Get off your high horse. If haynes is found guilty, let the public judge him then.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2367 on: December 22, 2017, 04:18:51 AM »

As reported in The Australian

If you are going to make accusations based on a newspaper then quote important “facts” from the articles.

For Instance:

“She quickly decided that if she reported to the police she would need some kind of proof and took [Hayne’s] undergarment in case there was need for testing,” The court documents allege.

Had supposed evidence but still didn’t report it for 6 months...

Somethings smells fishy and it’s not Haynes undergarments.

If he has done anything then string him up but please have solid evidence first... They didn’t proceed because there wasn’t sufficient evidence. Hayne fully cooperated with the district Attorney regarding the investigation.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2368 on: December 22, 2017, 06:05:32 AM »

How offensive

The Australian press and public were all over Stokes for what he did, yet when one of their own commits what is in my eyes the scummiest crime in the world the outcry is far less

You may be good at sport but your morals are in the gutter

Im with you mate, this is unacceptable. The ACA need to drop this haynes bloke from the test squad immediately. No way should he take any further part in this Ashes series.


This is customrugby.co.uk isnt it?


Troll.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2369 on: December 22, 2017, 06:23:39 AM »

These accustaions are not from me they are from a virginal girl, I am merely repeating what was reported in the newspaper

I expected the siege mentality from you aussie guys on here, another example of your blind patriotism - admirable in many ways

Maybe Hayne will be found innocent but also so may Stokes - I dont think the press treatment matches up considering their alleged offences

Im with you mate, this is unacceptable. The ACA need to drop this haynes bloke from the test squad immediately. No way should he take any further part in this Ashes series.


This is customrugby.co.uk isnt it?


Troll.

It may have escaped your attention but this isnt called customcricket either. So unless you only want to talk custom bats and that alone I suggest you get used to a variety of conversations
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