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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2655 on: December 30, 2017, 12:20:18 AM »

This is a good innings by Warner here showing patience. Interesting to hear if he scores a 100 he would be the only player to score a 100 in both innings 4 times. Hope I just didn’t put the curse on him
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2656 on: December 30, 2017, 12:22:17 AM »

This is a good innings by Warner here showing patience. Interesting to hear if he scores a 100 he would be the only player to score a 100 in both innings 4 times. Hope I just didn’t put the curse on him

At today's strike rate, is there enough time?
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« Reply #2657 on: December 30, 2017, 12:30:24 AM »

At today's strike rate, is there enough time?

If the keep Ali on he will score 200
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2658 on: December 30, 2017, 12:32:41 AM »

This is a good innings by Warner here showing patience. Interesting to hear if he scores a 100 he would be the only player to score a 100 in both innings 4 times. Hope I just didn’t put the curse on him

You realise you have....
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2659 on: December 30, 2017, 01:00:16 AM »

Warner has a massive brainfade. Throws away the chance to create history. The door is ajar
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2660 on: December 30, 2017, 01:01:22 AM »

After such patience too... oh dear
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2661 on: December 30, 2017, 01:02:56 AM »

As previously noted by one or two members, the pitches in England make it difficult for quality young players to prosper. Players like Darrens Stevens and Masters and Keith Barker are/were always near the top of the wickets column. Imagine them bowling to Smith at Perth or Kohli in Mumbai - carnage. The dukes ball also comes into play although when trialled in the Sheffield shield it proved less effective on hard pitches

We need good batting pitches in the CC - for the first two days at least - where pace makes a difference. Tom Helm and George Garton should be encouraged to go 90mph+ not left out of the teams for 80mph line and lengthers.

These hard pitches will also encourage the likes of Joe Clarke and Liam Livingstone to play their shots not simply survive

At the moment the CC is producing players that prosper in English conditions along with probably NZ and maybe SA. In the rest of the world we look clueless.
Keith Barker's a decent bowler to be fair! Pitches are starting to go the right way I think, hopefully it carries on that way. Unless it's spoilt by the CC being played in April/September.

Moaning about lack of talent is a bit premature, there's plenty of prospects out there. Problem for us at the moment is they're mostly young and inexperienced - Livingstone, Clarke, Helm, Tongue, Hameed, Bess, the Parkinsons, Foakes, Norwell, Duckett, Lawrence, Sam Curran etc etc etc. Some of them will come good, but as Hameed showed it might not be yet!  As for 18 counties, come on... never stopped us producing talent in the past. Cutting down on counties to produce more talent is up there with taking the game off terrestrial TV to find new audiences in the pantheon of great cricket admin ideas.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2662 on: December 30, 2017, 01:06:40 AM »

Ricky Ponting remains the closest batsman to nearly score a hundred in each innings four times.

149 & 104* vs WI
120 & 143* vs SA
103 & 116 vs SA

101 & 99 also against SA. That one measly run...
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2663 on: December 30, 2017, 01:09:01 AM »

Announcement today that Ashton Agar has been selected for the fifth test. Suggestion Hazlewood or Cummins will be rested.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2664 on: December 30, 2017, 01:22:14 AM »

Bairstow is pretty quick in the field even with the pads on.  I just saw that he almost caught up with fielder chasing the Shaun Marsh (his first runs edged for four) edge to the boundary.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2665 on: December 30, 2017, 01:32:14 AM »

Fantastic take from YJB
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« Reply #2666 on: December 30, 2017, 01:42:31 AM »

After such patience too... oh dear

Impresive knock though
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2667 on: December 30, 2017, 01:43:52 AM »

Keith Barker's a decent bowler to be fair! Pitches are starting to go the right way I think, hopefully it carries on that way. Unless it's spoilt by the CC being played in April/September.

Moaning about lack of talent is a bit premature, there's plenty of prospects out there. Problem for us at the moment is they're mostly young and inexperienced - Livingstone, Clarke, Helm, Tongue, Hameed, Bess, the Parkinsons, Foakes, Norwell, Duckett, Lawrence, Sam Curran etc etc etc. Some of them will come good, but as Hameed showed it might not be yet!  As for 18 counties, come on... never stopped us producing talent in the past. Cutting down on counties to produce more talent is up there with taking the game off terrestrial TV to find new audiences in the pantheon of great cricket admin ideas.

Duckett!!! Oh my life

Test cricketer ?? Really??  That is scraping the barrel if he’s in your talented list
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2668 on: December 30, 2017, 01:53:47 AM »

Duckett!!! Oh my life

Test cricketer ?? Really??  That is scraping the barrel if he’s in your talented list
Ah give the lad some credit, he's definitely a talent! And as evidenced by his stint in test cricket, definitely not ready either! You don't get called up for a test debut at 22 without a bit of ability to be fair. Some of that list will make it but I'm sure plenty won't too, who knows which side he'll end up on.

What do we reckon, looking like we could snatch a win on the last day? Don't see Mitchell Marsh as a bloke to stick around blocking.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2669 on: December 30, 2017, 02:28:05 AM »

Keith Barker's a decent bowler to be fair! Pitches are starting to go the right way I think, hopefully it carries on that way. Unless it's spoilt by the CC being played in April/September.

Moaning about lack of talent is a bit premature, there's plenty of prospects out there. Problem for us at the moment is they're mostly young and inexperienced - Livingstone, Clarke, Helm, Tongue, Hameed, Bess, the Parkinsons, Foakes, Norwell, Duckett, Lawrence, Sam Curran etc etc etc. Some of them will come good, but as Hameed showed it might not be yet!  As for 18 counties, come on... never stopped us producing talent in the past. Cutting down on counties to produce more talent is up there with taking the game off terrestrial TV to find new audiences in the pantheon of great cricket admin ideas.

I may have done Barker a slight misservice there as he does swing the new ball albeit at 80mph.

I dont think having 18 counties is in anyway harmful. My complaint is the pitches which encourage medium pace seam bowlers which will not be succesful in Test cricket on 90% of the grounds used. There should always be a place for good swing bowlers with a new ball. And on hard piches reverse swing bowlers as the ball gets older. And spin from day 3 onwards

I dont either think there is a lack of talent - alot of those guys you mention have potential for an international career of some sort.

My question is this - would Darren Stevens take 50 wickets in a Sheffield Shield season? Id be surprised if he took 5. No slight on him by the way, he bowls to his conditions very well
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