Topic: Ashes 2017-18 (Read 407101 times)

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #2685 on:** January 02, 2018, 08:48:34 PM »

Quote from: Tom on January 02, 2018, 08:36:37 PM

Common assault is usually a summary offence, so Police have the authority to charge. ABH which Stokes is up for is a more serious indictable offence and requires the CPS to decide whether there is sufficient evidence to charge, this makes it a much longer process.

Ah ok! Makes sense

cricketbadger · « **Reply #2686 on:** January 02, 2018, 09:53:14 PM »

Quote from: Kulli on January 02, 2018, 08:37:24 PM

Talk seems to be Crane in for either Moeen or Curran, depending on if the pitch looks like it�ll spin or not.

My money would be on Moeen playing.

I agree, if they have the choice of Mo or Curran, think Curran will get the chop as he's another newbie so easy option which England normally employ

ppccopener · « **Reply #2687 on:** January 02, 2018, 10:05:44 PM »

Quote from: cricketbadger on January 02, 2018, 09:53:14 PM

I agree, if they have the choice of Mo or Curran, think Curran will get the chop as he's another newbie so easy option which England normally employ

Agar has been called into the Aussie squad, that gives the option of two specialist spinners for them,. I actually think Crane will play instead of Mo but if we need two spinners you may be right Mo could play and Curran out.

I think England know Moeen is short on confidence and could, and should, take him out of the firing line for now.

I like Mo as a player, he has bailed us out many times, but you could make an argument/discussion Ben Stokes have covered a couple of players in this team who might now be being shown up

I mean Stokes allows us batting and bowling options, and we sure have missed him. I say again, we cannot balance the team at the moment because there is not enough quality to step up

edge · « **Reply #2688 on:** January 02, 2018, 10:14:23 PM »

I think we haven't even tried to balance the team tbh, we don't have a Stokes replacement but the England management have just tried bunging square pegs in round holes instead. Pull Moeen out and replace him with a batsman, he's not bowling many overs anyway. Then Curran probably gets the chop if we want to play Crane.

ppccopener · « **Reply #2689 on:** January 02, 2018, 10:29:12 PM »

Quote from: edge on January 02, 2018, 10:14:23 PM

I think we haven't even tried to balance the team tbh, we don't have a Stokes replacement but the England management have just tried bunging square pegs in round holes instead. Pull Moeen out and replace him with a batsman, he's not bowling many overs anyway. Then Curran probably gets the chop if we want to play Crane.

They could but if they did that we are a bowler short in theory and we havnt got close to taking 20 wickets in any game I've seen

I suppose you could say Mo does not look like getting wickets but reducing bowling options seems odd

Are you saying we should of had 4 bowlers, excluding Root, from test 1 and just put(in theory) more runs on the board..

edge · « **Reply #2690 on:** January 02, 2018, 10:56:23 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on January 02, 2018, 10:29:12 PM

They could but if they did that we are a bowler short in theory and we havnt got close to taking 20 wickets in any game I've seen

I suppose you could say Mo does not look like getting wickets but reducing bowling options seems odd

Are you saying we should of had 4 bowlers, excluding Root, from test 1 and just put(in theory) more runs on the board..

Yep 4 specialist bowlers plus Root/Malan/Vince etc, a specialist spinner should be bowling a lot more overs than Moeen currently is so that covers most of the burden straight away. Part timers can then fill in when needed but there's no point having a 5th bowler if they don't add much, which Mo sadly hasn't been. Then the extra bat should in theory help with some scoreboard pressure. Only risk is that on a real flat one you end up with part timers having to bowl too many overs, but then in that case you're probably heading for a draw anyway.

ppccopener · « **Reply #2691 on:** January 02, 2018, 11:04:37 PM »

Quote from: edge on January 02, 2018, 10:56:23 PM

Yep 4 specialist bowlers plus Root/Malan/Vince etc, a specialist spinner should be bowling a lot more overs than Moeen currently is so that covers most of the burden straight away. Part timers can then fill in when needed but there's no point having a 5th bowler if they don't add much, which Mo sadly hasn't been. Then the extra bat should in theory help with some scoreboard pressure. Only risk is that on a real flat one you end up with part timers having to bowl too many overs, but then in that case you're probably heading for a draw anyway.

Malan has done fairly well when he has bowled, he seems to land it in the right area

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #2692 on:** January 02, 2018, 11:08:25 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on January 02, 2018, 11:04:37 PM

Malan has done fairly well when he has bowled, he seems to land it in the right area

Not looked like taking a wicket though and test Cricket is about taking wickets not bowling dry like white ball.

Number4 · « **Reply #2693 on:** January 02, 2018, 11:17:28 PM »

Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on January 02, 2018, 11:08:25 PM

Not looked like taking a wicket though and test Cricket is about taking wickets not bowling dry like white ball.

That stands for most of England�s bowlers this series though 😂🤣😂

petehosk · « **Reply #2694 on:** January 02, 2018, 11:28:38 PM »

If Crane was being played, I would rest Mo rather thab taking a pace bolwer out!
We still need 4 pace bowlers and then we can bowl Crane and have Root and Malan to support spin if it starts to turn more!

Number4 · « **Reply #2695 on:** January 02, 2018, 11:36:12 PM »

Quote from: petehosk on January 02, 2018, 11:28:38 PM

If Crane was being played, I would rest Mo rather thab taking a pace bolwer out!
We still need 4 pace bowlers and then we can bowl Crane and have Root and Malan to support spin if it starts to turn more!

I agree with this

Sam · « **Reply #2696 on:** January 03, 2018, 12:23:31 AM »

Woakes likely to be ruled out of the last test apparently, which surely means Moeen has to play?

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #2697 on:** January 03, 2018, 01:17:26 AM »

Quote from: petehosk on January 02, 2018, 11:28:38 PM

If Crane was being played, I would rest Mo rather thab taking a pace bolwer out!
We still need 4 pace bowlers and then we can bowl Crane and have Root and Malan to support spin if it starts to turn more!

Sorry but how is averaging 19 with the bat and 100 with the ball deserving of a rest? Moeen(prior to Woakes' injury) was rightly going to be dropped. He's been a total embarrassment on this tour.

petehosk · « **Reply #2698 on:** January 03, 2018, 01:26:06 AM »

Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on January 03, 2018, 01:17:26 AM

Sorry but how is averaging 19 with the bat and 100 with the ball deserving of a rest? Moeen(prior to Woakes' injury) was rightly going to be dropped. He's been a total embarrassment on this tour.

Really? Resting mo means to me that he isnt good enough on this tour! What would you do? Play him? Why would you play someone like Mo who looks badly out of form?? Jeez!

petehosk · « **Reply #2699 on:** January 03, 2018, 01:40:05 AM »

Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on January 03, 2018, 01:17:26 AM

Moeen(prior to Woakes' injury) was rightly going to be dropped. He's been a total embarrassment on this tour.

And dropping him completely would be ridiculous! He has had one poor series - but in previous games during 2017 he has been impressive for most of the time! Let's not give up on him just yet ay!!
By all means rest the guy and give someone else a go but let's try to bring his confidence back a little without hanging him out to dry for one poor series!
Just go back a few months and mo was batting getting bucket loads of runs and taking wickets too! We need some depth and experience in the squad and real competition for places if we wamt to compete at the top level.

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