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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2745 on: January 04, 2018, 01:23:34 AM »

The expression "clubie" was bandied about by more than one expert on here.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2746 on: January 04, 2018, 01:27:16 AM »

I hope Senior wasn't listening to TMS half an hour ago when Glenn McGrath, who didn't know Woakes was injured, found out he wasn't in the team.

McGrath said that he had spoken to a few of the Aussie batsmen and they told him that, despite bowling too short in the series, when he bowled in the right areas the Aussie batsmen thought Woakes was the best of the English bowlers.

EDIT: His exact words -

"It's a bit of a strange one, cos talking to a few of the Australian batsmen they were saying they felt that Woakes was, at stages the best bowler. He has bowled too short, at stages, without a doubt but..." at that point McGrath was told Woakes was out with a side strain.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2747 on: January 04, 2018, 01:44:41 AM »

So Overton and Woakes have missed tests due to injury (although crane may have been in for woakes regardless) . Thats 2 pommie pacemen down in the ashes vs 1 test missed by starc for the aussies .
I'm sure i was told once or twice pre series that none of the aussie pacemen would make it through the series !?!?!
Oh well....
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2748 on: January 04, 2018, 02:38:50 AM »

Mason Crane was sponsored by Newbery when he flew out to Australia.
His Twitter bio now says sponsored by New Balance. What stick will he walk out with?
Id guess a Newbery with a new Balance sticker on it
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2749 on: January 04, 2018, 05:38:26 AM »

Id guess a Newbery with a new Balance sticker on it
Or a TK/Aldred with NB stickers ;)

So Overton and Woakes have missed tests due to injury (although crane may have been in for woakes regardless) . Thats 2 pommie pacemen down in the ashes vs 1 test missed by starc for the aussies .
I'm sure i was told once or twice pre series that none of the aussie pacemen would make it through the series !?!?!
Oh well....
Starc looks like he should be missing here too, bowling dobblers so far, pretty selfish to insist to play if he’s not fit.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2750 on: January 04, 2018, 05:52:44 AM »

Or a TK/Aldred with NB stickers ;)
Starc looks like he should be missing here too, bowling dobblers so far, pretty selfish to insist to play if he’s not fit.


Not sure where your info is coming from but it’s not up to him to insist to play and he is 100% fit.

 Dobblers? 135-145kph 13 overs 4 maidens 0 for 42 economy rate of 3.23 Not sure I’d be calling that dobblers 😂 🤣
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2751 on: January 04, 2018, 06:36:36 AM »

His pace has certainly been down on the first three tests. Could just be a lack of bowling issue, or could be he isn’t 100%, but the fact he keeps holding his heel suggests the latter.

I’d also imagine a senior player like him has a pretty big day in whether he feels fit to play or not.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2752 on: January 04, 2018, 06:54:56 AM »

That’s poor. Toby Roland jones all over again

I don’t like it..I just don’t like it.

Whilst a shame for Newbery, the majority of big name sponsorship contracts are for the calendar year - it's highly likely NB will have snapped him up a while back and it's just been under the radar until now.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2753 on: January 04, 2018, 07:14:06 AM »

Whilst a shame for Newbery, the majority of big name sponsorship contracts are for the calendar year - it's highly likely NB will have snapped him up a while back and it's just been under the radar until now.


Of course you at correct there, the same contract almost certainly applies to Stoneman who is not an established test player by any means.

It may be old fashioned but like @edge, a player sticking with a smaller company so they get exposure as well brings a smile to my face.

It doesn't happen very often in the modern day. I really like Stoneman as a player it's just another reason to like him. opening the batting for England in an Ashes tour is big exposure for a manufacturer.

Ravi bops used Warsop in a purple patch a few years ago, their sales of the platinum model increased hugely and that can only be good for a small company.

They did send Bops 30 odd bats in a season once as I asked them when I was down there  :)

He did of course get a contract with GM.

You can't blame any player for taking a contract, it's just nice to see some loyalty.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2754 on: January 04, 2018, 07:19:48 AM »

The expression "clubie" was bandied about by more than one expert on here.

Yes correct it was used more than once. Misguided in the extreme I would suggest.

I'm looking for the 'experts' as well  :)
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2755 on: January 04, 2018, 07:22:46 AM »

His pace has certainly been down on the first three tests. Could just be a lack of bowling issue, or could be he isn’t 100%, but the fact he keeps holding his heel suggests the latter.

I’d also imagine a senior player like him has a pretty big day in whether he feels fit to play or not.

Apparently the final say is the “on duty selector” at the ground along with coach and captain. Lehman said before play he was fully fit. If he isn’t then they have made the wrong call... Silly if he proves to be not 100%
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2756 on: January 04, 2018, 07:24:53 AM »

By the same token do back sponsors to show loyalty to players who say drop out of 1st class cricket?

Do they get offered the same deal if they’re only playing ECBPL the season afterwards.

It’s nice to see loyalty occasionally, but I don’t think we can expect it.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2757 on: January 04, 2018, 07:25:54 AM »

Apparently the final say is the “on duty selector” at the ground along with coach and captain. Lehman said before play he was fully fit. If he isn’t then they have made the wrong call... Silly if he proves to be not 100%
he’s for sure not 100% but the quirks never are.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2758 on: January 04, 2018, 07:35:31 AM »

Dawid Malan must be getting an awful lot of confidence from this tour.

Didn't see him doing so well myself before the tour although I thought Stoneman would.

With the selectors taking some blame for this tour, should they be praised now for his selection?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2759 on: January 04, 2018, 07:37:28 AM »

Starc holding his heel again, this could be a terrible decision if England manage not to get rolled for 250 tomorrow morning.

EDIT- didn’t count on them getting started tonight.
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