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Ashes 2019 England Team
« on: December 30, 2017, 11:47:43 AM »

It seems to me that the England and Wales Cricket Team will be at an important decision point after the current Ashes series. After a well deserved thumping they will want revenge on home turf. So what to do with the more senior players? Do they stretch them out for a swansong or do they bring in fresh? It seems to me that if they choose to do the latter it’s a decision that needs to be made now. It’s no good chopping in new players on the doorstep of the Ashes - better to blood them in 2018 and get a few caps under their belts.

Here are the ages of the current team:

Alistair Cook 33
Mark Stoneman 30
James Vince 26
Joe Root 27
Dawid Malan 30
Jonny Bairstow 28
Moeen Ali 30
Chris Woakes 28
Stuart Broad 31
James Anderson 35


Therefore here is my long shot estimate for Ashes 19:

1: Cook/Hameed
2: Stoneman
3: Vince
4: Root
5: Malan
6: Bairstow
7: Woakes
8: Curran EDIT: Stokes in for Curran, Woakes down 1, pending disciplinary/ pending future charges!
9: Wood
10: Porter
11: Crane/ Ali depending on pitch - Ali to bat 7 if played

Concerns: Long Tail. Inexperienced attack (but if played soon could get a few games before the Ashes19). Still not sold on Vince.

Guess your teams and justify your choices below!



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Re: Ashes 2019 England Team
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2017, 11:56:15 AM »

Where is Stokes? In Pentonville Prison?
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Re: Ashes 2019 England Team
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2017, 12:00:15 PM »

Where is Stokes? In Pentonville Prison?

Knew I’d missed someone! Although it’s possible let’s be honest!
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Re: Ashes 2019 England Team
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2017, 12:01:08 PM »

Go be the fact it’s the england selectors I wouldn’t be too surprised if we go in to the first test with:

Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root
Malan
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Roland jones/broad
Anderson

But would like to see something like:

Cook/hameed/stoneman
Cook/hameed/stoneman
Bairstow
Root
Malan
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Roland jones
Overton
Curran

Anderson and broad will play though
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Re: Ashes 2019 England Team
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2017, 12:01:23 PM »

1.cook
2.stoneman
3.malan
4.root
5.stokes
6.bairstow
7.ali
8.woakes
9.curren
10.wood
11.archer
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Re: Ashes 2019 England Team
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2017, 12:02:44 PM »

We all know broad and Anderson will be there! But it's a bit of fun picking a different team👍
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Re: Ashes 2019 England Team
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2017, 12:15:45 PM »

Cook
Stoneman / Brown
Burns
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Foakes
Woakes
Curran
Broad / Wood
Anderson / Porter
Crane / Ali / Leach


Prob more of what id like to see than what we will see. Only two seasons away so could be Broad and Andersons last Hurrah if they stay fit and dont drastically drop in form.
I think stoneman is brilliant and has done well so far but he will need to start scoring some tons next summer to keep his place. Nick Brown deserves a chance at some point.
Rory Burns has been consistent the last few seasons and should be in the squad now (along with Brown). Genuine top order batsmen comfortable opening and at 3, determined gritty can score runs all round the ground good across all three formats too so well adapted for different situations.
Root, Bairstow and Stokes need no explaining.
Foakes is a fantastic keeper will offer more with the gloves than bairstow, is also a very handy batsmen in all situations. Him keeping leaves Bairstow to concentrate on scoring big runs.
Again woakes doesn't need much explanation.
Curran - if he continues to develop at International level at the speed he did at county level he'll be a great player. Early days but if he can hold onto his spot for next test and then start of summer i think he'll be a regular for a few years. (plus i cant bring myself to pick that racist thug Overton).
If Anderson/Broad aren't about then Wood is probably next in line and Porter again has proved his quality in Div 1 of CC and deserves a chance.
Really cant work out the spinner, if Ali can find his mojo again then it'll be him, if its not and the ECB continue ignoring the development of spinners itll be Crane as he's next in line. It probably should be Leach of Somerset if not Ali. With my bias brown Surrey cap on a real leftfield pick would be Amar Virdi.

Edit: of course i've now just realised one of those would have to be 12th man :D
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Re: Ashes 2019 England Team
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2017, 12:54:27 PM »

Few wild cards-Dan Lawrence, Tom Abell (Reckon he will have a pearler this year after all he went through this season) and Jofra Archer (When does he become English :))
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Re: Ashes 2019 England Team
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2017, 02:06:58 PM »

Few wild cards-Dan Lawrence, Tom Abell (Reckon he will have a pearler this year after all he went through this season) and Jofra Archer (When does he become English :))

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Re: Ashes 2019 England Team
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2017, 02:38:33 PM »

Go be the fact it’s the england selectors I wouldn’t be too surprised if we go in to the first test with:

Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root
Malan
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Roland jones/broad
Anderson

But would like to see something like:

Cook/hameed/stoneman
Cook/hameed/stoneman
Bairstow
Root
Malan
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Roland jones
Overton
Curran

Anderson and broad will play though

If all fit tand if they want to the first one
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Re: Ashes 2019 England Team
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2017, 02:50:31 PM »

Jofra Archer isn't eligible until 2022
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Re: Ashes 2019 England Team
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2017, 02:59:08 PM »

This is a post I made on the Ashes thread...

"When you are talking about retirement of the big established players you need to look further ahead.

Example - they aren't going to retire before an English summer because that's easy to play in at home and a better chance of wickets/runs. 

Look further ahead and you see England are due to tour Sri Lanka in Oct-Nov 2018 and West Indies in Jan-Feb 2019 - possibly 2 of the easiest away tours there are at the moment." 

Anderson, Broad and Cook will all be around for the Ashes 2019 and will possibly use it as a last hurrah I think.

Obviously Root, Bairstow, Stokes and Woakes will be there.

So that leaves the usual batting spots, spinner and 4th seamer spot up for grabs.

18 months is a long time in cricket but Stoneman and definitely Malan have done well with the bat so it will be their spots to lose.
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Re: Ashes 2019 England Team
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2017, 03:55:59 PM »

I don’t think Broad, Anderson and Cook will be around for that one.


Don’t discount Roland-Jones when fit. I think he will slot into a Angus Fraser type role and he has the nack of picking up wickets.
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Re: Ashes 2019 England Team
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2017, 05:12:00 PM »

I don’t think Broad, Anderson and Cook will be around for that one.


Don’t discount Roland-Jones when fit. I think he will slot into a Angus Fraser type role and he has the nack of picking up wickets.

I think TRJ will be the other seamer once fit definitely and will take lots of wickets next summer.

The ECB are going to let Cook, Anderson and maybe Broad retire on their own terms and they are going to want to go out with a bang so it might be the end of our 2017 summer vs India at the Oval.

But we don't want a situation like Oz had when Warne, McGrath etc... all retired at the same time and it screwed the team over.
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Re: Ashes 2019 England Team
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2017, 05:34:42 PM »

I'm sure I read somewhere there was the possibility of fast-tracking J.Archer so that he is eligible sooner- 5th Test would be nice!
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