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ProCricketer1982

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Re: Spirit of Cricket?
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2018, 08:28:49 AM »

Law 41

Time wasting

How many times do we now see batters not ready to receive the bowlers delivery? The above law states that under normal circumstances the striker must be ready when the bowler is.. and yet, how often do you see batters messing about and the bowler left standing there waiting etc ... again, is that batter wrong ?.  He’s been allowed to get away with it because no one has enforced the laws so he might believe that you wait for the batter  etc etc ..

A lot of the laws are there already tbh, it’s just they are not being enforced by umpires at all levels properly or consistently and so ambiguity sinks in and then we get all mannor of interpretation.

Sledge vs no sledge
Wait for the batter to be ready or bowler ?
Time wasting
Over appealing
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« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2018, 11:59:13 AM »

You said 'Spirit of the game is in following the laws', do you mean that as long as you follow the law you mean that you're playing the game in the right spirit?
The rules are there for a reason. And i play in the spirit of the game as well as follow the laws when i play. So to me, the grey area would be less if everyone followed the same rules. Leaves less room for interpretation. In no batsman ever picked up the ball, then this kind of situation will never occur.
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« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2018, 12:30:35 PM »

This is all just an example of what you get when you try to help someone out.

The rule is wrong, yes, I think we can all agree on that. But what sort of a person appeals for that? There must have been some thought behind it, as you wouldn't appeal for it unless you knew that was a rule and had some degree of planning?

Someone within the West Indies set up must have read that rule and thought 'we're going to get someone like that' and then waited for it to happen.

Absolute shambles frankly, maybe if they concentrated on their cricket a bit more rather than this petty bullshit (remember the Mankad from the last U19's team?) the West Indies would be the superpower it once was
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« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2018, 02:42:35 AM »

This is all just an example of what you get when you try to help someone out.

The rule is wrong, yes, I think we can all agree on that. But what sort of a person appeals for that? There must have been some thought behind it, as you wouldn't appeal for it unless you knew that was a rule and had some degree of planning?

Someone within the West Indies set up must have read that rule and thought 'we're going to get someone like that' and then waited for it to happen.

Absolute shambles frankly, maybe if they concentrated on their cricket a bit more rather than this petty bullshit (remember the Mankad from the last U19's team?) the West Indies would be the superpower it once was
The initial appeal happened in the heat of the moment perhaps but he had plenty of time to take it back and he chose not to. We can only speculate what was going through his mind. But ridiculous to think that they planned it. You cannot plan for a batsman to pick up the ball. Personally I have picked up the ball a couple of times to pass to a fielder but I signal before doing that.
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Re: Spirit of Cricket?
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2018, 05:38:12 AM »

This is all just an example of what you get when you try to help someone out.

The rule is wrong, yes, I think we can all agree on that. But what sort of a person appeals for that? There must have been some thought behind it, as you wouldn't appeal for it unless you knew that was a rule and had some degree of planning?

Someone within the West Indies set up must have read that rule and thought 'we're going to get someone like that' and then waited for it to happen.

Absolute shambles frankly, maybe if they concentrated on their cricket a bit more rather than this petty bullshit (remember the Mankad from the last U19's team?) the West Indies would be the superpower it once was

No issues with mankad, since backing up early CAN unfairly help the batting team. But this was silly.
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Re: Spirit of Cricket?
« Reply #50 on: February 10, 2018, 08:05:05 AM »

http://www.espncricinfo.com/video/clip?id=22377771

More stinky bantz in the windies.
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Re: Spirit of Cricket?
« Reply #51 on: February 10, 2018, 08:09:31 AM »

http://www.espncricinfo.com/video/clip?id=22377771

More stinky bantz in the windies.


What’s wrong with West Indian cricketers?? It’s from top to bottom.
Rob key suggested it was marlon Samuels at fault being captain. Wouldn’t surprise you would it
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Re: Spirit of Cricket?
« Reply #52 on: February 10, 2018, 08:15:21 AM »

http://www.espncricinfo.com/video/clip?id=22377771

More stinky bantz in the windies.


Spirit of Cricket is dead. It’s win at all costs now. This is also pro Cricket so they’ll do anything.. the only thing they had to play for was denying him a ton so they did.  Meh.. not cool but meh.

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Re: Spirit of Cricket?
« Reply #53 on: February 10, 2018, 08:19:36 AM »

I can’t understand what sense of achievement they get from doing this?
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Re: Spirit of Cricket?
« Reply #54 on: February 10, 2018, 08:41:51 AM »

I can’t understand what sense of achievement they get from doing this?

I don’t get it at all, if anything i’d have been lobbing down a pie to let the bloke belt a four and get off to lick your wounds.
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Re: Spirit of Cricket?
« Reply #55 on: February 10, 2018, 08:45:15 AM »

Does anyone know who the fielder was?

I think looking at it the bowler wasn't to blame in this instance, it looked like he was trying to bowl wide Yorkers to Crawley and was just rubbish then bowling straighter at the stumps to the other batter.
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Re: Spirit of Cricket?
« Reply #56 on: February 10, 2018, 08:45:37 AM »

I can’t understand what sense of achievement they get from doing this?

It’s not achievement. It’s just not letting the oppo get another positive

Ps I don’t think it was right btw.. but it is what it is now
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Re: Spirit of Cricket?
« Reply #57 on: February 10, 2018, 08:57:09 AM »

Does anyone know who the fielder was?

I think looking at it the bowler wasn't to blame in this instance, it looked like he was trying to bowl wide Yorkers to Crawley and was just rubbish then bowling straighter at the stumps to the other batter.
He was trying to bowl leg side sides when the other bloke got on strike.
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